PAGID Comparision

Yella Fella · 20th January 2014, 14:25

There was a very informative thread by ecp where PAGID was compaired to MINTEX. Where has it gone?

Yella Fella · 20th January 2014, 14:51

Please ignore my last post, I found the thread in the members section.

Jules · 18th July 2015, 17:04

We prefer the Pagid brand.
Nice silver coating on the disc centres make them look good for up to 2 years.

Mintex pads blacken the wheels much quicker than OEM or Pagid pads.

Vossy · 28th October 2016, 15:19

I know this is an old thread and previously I have praised Pagid, I had them fitted all round on my previous car and the coatings were perfect, the brakes were good and low dust.
I fitted Pagid all round on my ZT about 10 months ago, they are rusted up now and I had a vibration under braking on the front, they had only done 3000 miles.
I have now changed the whole set for Delphi, I know they are not coated but what a difference in braking.
I don't know what has happened to Pagid but a friend of mine had his Jaguar done at the same time as mine, his as exactly the same now, rusting very quick.
Maybe Conti are cutting back on the expensive coating and using a thinner layer, I don't know but these are my personal views and what has happened to me.

Jules · 28th October 2016, 16:17

Thank you for posting this!!!!

It matters not that it's an old thread.
We purchased 10 sets of front discs from ECP in 2014.

8 of them came back to us for warranty claims.......brake pedal wobble.
I suspect the other 2 also failed but owners had either sold them on or were too far away to travel all the way back here to have them replaced under warranty.

I rang ECP about this and they said there is a 2 warranty on them but they had not had ANY other bad reports about PAGID.

I don't believe them for one minute so I'm going to initiate a case with Trading Standards.
If ECP don't admit there's a problem there is going to be legal action because this is a safety issue.

Similar failures are all over the Facebook groups and elsewhere on the web so this thread will simply strengthen the case.

Keep this thread alive please because we are sick of replacing substandard parts at our expense.

oldcarguy · 28th October 2016, 16:24

I had this problem a year or two back, I personally wouldn't buy Pagid again, I'm using a mixture of Unipart pads and Brembo discs at the moment and all is good.

lightningmark · 28th October 2016, 21:31

I'd like to add by saying I first bought and fitted Pagid discs in 2012 to mine, my partners and friends and families cars, I was very impressed with them up until about 2 years ago when I indeed had disc warping issues, I then came to the conclusion that they were using substandard steel/manufacturing methods and since then have not used them, strangely I've not had the same issues and I've used various brands, Delphi, Brembo etc, I've personally used Mtec discs on my own vehicles and got nothing but praise for them

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Yella Fella · 29th October 2016, 08:56

I like Pagid for the rust resistance and wet braking. Ive not had any of the issues described on the two cars ive fitted them to including mt TF 160 which had some hard braking going on.

Just fitted Pagid discs and pads again to mt ZT last week.

It will be intetesting to see what the feedback is for ecp.

Vossy · 29th October 2016, 10:31

It seems there is a problem, Jules clearly fits lots of these and customers are complaining, I am with the view of cheaper materials, they can all pass final inspection for thickness and tolerances but in the real world these discs are failing at very low mileages. Although ECP say millions are sold, just 1% of those discs failing is a lot.
I binned my old Pagid discs and vowed never to use Pagid again, how many more people think like me?
I hope Pagid do get this sorted, as Jules has said, there are many posts on lots of forums and social media regarding the same problems as I encountered.

Jules · 29th October 2016, 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vossy

It seems there is a problem, Jules clearly fits lots of these and customers are complaining, I am with the view of cheaper materials, they can all pass final inspection for thickness and tolerances but in the real world these discs are failing at very low mileages. Although ECP say millions are sold, just 1% of those discs failing is a lot.
I binned my old Pagid discs and vowed never to use Pagid again, how many more people think like me?
I hope Pagid do get this sorted, as Jules has said, there are many posts on lots of forums and social media regarding the same problems as I encountered.

Oh dear more evidence "binned !!"
That's a shame you didn't return them.
I hear this so often.

I reckon only 5% of duff parts are ever returned because we Brits are not born complainers or maybe it's the fear of the cost of returning stuff or in some cases lack of time or laziness

Ultimately it gives companies false statistics about how reliable their products really are.

Some companies/suppliers don't care but simply want volume of sales but lets hope in this case PAGID come up with a solution.

Ultimately I really don't mind paying more I'm constantly on the hunt for a quality product for myself and my customers

20th January 2014, 14:25	#1
Yella Fella Nemo Me Impune Lacessit None at the moment Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Glasgow's HMP Barlinnie, 'A' Hall, 2nd Flat Posts: 5,192 Thanks: 493 Thanked 1,094 Times in 666 Posts	PAGID Comparision There was a very informative thread by ecp where PAGID was compaired to MINTEX. Where has it gone? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

20th January 2014, 14:51	#2
Yella Fella Nemo Me Impune Lacessit None at the moment Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Glasgow's HMP Barlinnie, 'A' Hall, 2nd Flat Posts: 5,192 Thanks: 493 Thanked 1,094 Times in 666 Posts	Please ignore my last post, I found the thread in the members section. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

18th July 2015, 17:04	#3
Jules This is my second home ZT 260 SE Twilight and 10 other 75 ZT's :O Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Conwy NORTH WALES Posts: 11,094 Thanks: 512 Thanked 1,116 Times in 763 Posts	We prefer the Pagid brand. Nice silver coating on the disc centres make them look good for up to 2 years. Mintex pads blacken the wheels much quicker than OEM or Pagid pads. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Newbies do now!! 1. Plenum drains..all 3 or 4 year dependent 2. Cooling fan..All speeds functioning 3. Bonnet cable divider block

28th October 2016, 16:17	#5
Jules This is my second home ZT 260 SE Twilight and 10 other 75 ZT's :O Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Conwy NORTH WALES Posts: 11,094 Thanks: 512 Thanked 1,116 Times in 763 Posts	Thank you for posting this!!!! It matters not that it's an old thread. We purchased 10 sets of front discs from ECP in 2014. 8 of them came back to us for warranty claims.......brake pedal wobble. I suspect the other 2 also failed but owners had either sold them on or were too far away to travel all the way back here to have them replaced under warranty. I rang ECP about this and they said there is a 2 warranty on them but they had not had ANY other bad reports about PAGID. I don't believe them for one minute so I'm going to initiate a case with Trading Standards. If ECP don't admit there's a problem there is going to be legal action because this is a safety issue. Similar failures are all over the Facebook groups and elsewhere on the web so this thread will simply strengthen the case. Keep this thread alive please because we are sick of replacing substandard parts at our expense. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Newbies do now!! 1. Plenum drains..all 3 or 4 year dependent 2. Cooling fan..All speeds functioning 3. Bonnet cable divider block

29th October 2016, 08:56	#8
Yella Fella Nemo Me Impune Lacessit None at the moment Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Glasgow's HMP Barlinnie, 'A' Hall, 2nd Flat Posts: 5,192 Thanks: 493 Thanked 1,094 Times in 666 Posts	I like Pagid for the rust resistance and wet braking. Ive not had any of the issues described on the two cars ive fitted them to including mt TF 160 which had some hard braking going on. Just fitted Pagid discs and pads again to mt ZT last week. It will be intetesting to see what the feedback is for ecp. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

28th October 2016, 15:19	#4
Vossy Why? ... MG ZT+ Cdti Auto saloon. Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Blockeswich, South Staffs Posts: 1,549 Thanks: 173 Thanked 483 Times in 330 Posts	I know this is an old thread and previously I have praised Pagid, I had them fitted all round on my previous car and the coatings were perfect, the brakes were good and low dust. I fitted Pagid all round on my ZT about 10 months ago, they are rusted up now and I had a vibration under braking on the front, they had only done 3000 miles. I have now changed the whole set for Delphi, I know they are not coated but what a difference in braking. I don't know what has happened to Pagid but a friend of mine had his Jaguar done at the same time as mine, his as exactly the same now, rusting very quick. Maybe Conti are cutting back on the expensive coating and using a thinner layer, I don't know but these are my personal views and what has happened to me.

28th October 2016, 16:24	#6
oldcarguy Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Conn SE Tourer Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Driffield Posts: 1,952 Thanks: 27 Thanked 151 Times in 125 Posts	I had this problem a year or two back, I personally wouldn't buy Pagid again, I'm using a mixture of Unipart pads and Brembo discs at the moment and all is good.

28th October 2016, 21:31	#7
lightningmark Gets stuck in MG ZT CDTI +135 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Wilmslow Posts: 566 Thanks: 36 Thanked 57 Times in 51 Posts	I'd like to add by saying I first bought and fitted Pagid discs in 2012 to mine, my partners and friends and families cars, I was very impressed with them up until about 2 years ago when I indeed had disc warping issues, I then came to the conclusion that they were using substandard steel/manufacturing methods and since then have not used them, strangely I've not had the same issues and I've used various brands, Delphi, Brembo etc, I've personally used Mtec discs on my own vehicles and got nothing but praise for them Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

29th October 2016, 10:31	#9
Vossy Why? ... MG ZT+ Cdti Auto saloon. Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Blockeswich, South Staffs Posts: 1,549 Thanks: 173 Thanked 483 Times in 330 Posts	It seems there is a problem, Jules clearly fits lots of these and customers are complaining, I am with the view of cheaper materials, they can all pass final inspection for thickness and tolerances but in the real world these discs are failing at very low mileages. Although ECP say millions are sold, just 1% of those discs failing is a lot. I binned my old Pagid discs and vowed never to use Pagid again, how many more people think like me? I hope Pagid do get this sorted, as Jules has said, there are many posts on lots of forums and social media regarding the same problems as I encountered.