Volkswagen diesels? - Page 2

LeRich · 2nd February 2018, 19:17

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Originally Posted by Southside

It’s safe to say VAG group are not what they used to be, pretty much every engine option in their line up suffer with some major problems now.

The transmissions aren't much better either. The 'smaller' DSGs in particular are proving problematic - have a read of Honest John's agony column for the number of complaints over these and the post-fix TDIs.

Sadly VW's image for quality relies more on the thud of a closing car door than genuine durability.

Comfortably Numb · 2nd February 2018, 19:35

As I have said elsewhere, the best Audi/VAG diesel was the 1.9tdi (Red i), which is what Audi VAG fans say. Around 2005, they switched to the 2.0L diesels, which put additional ancilliaries on the cam belt, making it more susceptible to failure. My old B5 Audi A4 suffered a tensioner failure on an ancilliary belt, my later B6 Avant 1.9TDi (2003) had a fantastic motor, but an alternator clutch fault was spotted by the indie VW specialist before it failed, and I had it replaced at 135,000. They start to snatch, and you can see and hear the tensioner jumping as it snatches., and it isn't long before either the belt, clutch or tensioner goes bang. But with reasonable maintenance, those engines are easily capable of 300,000.

LeeW · 2nd February 2018, 19:55

I had a Tiguan 2.0 TDI as a lease car for 3 years. Other than 1 service it ran perfectly for 30,000. I now have had a Seat Alhambra with the same engine for 6 months and so far so good.

murphyv310 · 2nd February 2018, 20:24

Hi.
None of the current diesels in my mind are going to prove the excellent reliability of earlier offerings from PSA & VAG.
I had an Audi 80 with the AAZ TDI unit and a ZX Turbo with the XUD engine, the XUD was wonderful and the Audi good too till the silly front pulley chucked it.

My mate has a Toureg, the new model and it is a 1.4 petrol, other than a little turbo lag it is very good. Time to move on from diesel to new generation petrol engines then it will be Electric and that's it!

LeeW · 2nd February 2018, 20:50

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Originally Posted by murphyv310

Time to move on from diesel to new generation petrol engines then it will be Electric and that's it!

I agree. 10 years time the electric car market will be unrecognisable from today...and they’ll be driving themselves!

Ennine · 2nd February 2018, 21:00

Come on fella's. This thread is starting to read like one on another forum talking about the horrors of owning a Rover !! No offence Trevor, isn't there a slight contradiction in there? Your Audi was great till it blew up.
Seriously though. Good and bad in all. Improvements have been made to the engines and some types of DSG boxes have (in the past) given a lot of trouble, depending on the type. Nothing is bombproof and there will always be problems with any car.
I'm not losing any sleep about my 170CR or its 6 speed wet clutch box, no nightmares about my DPF. I'm much more concerned about the lack of walnut and complete absence of soul. If I can't introduce any of the latter, that's the only reason I would get rid.

Nige

NigelOBB · 2nd February 2018, 21:14

The 2.5 diesel wasn’t bad. I had a A6 Avant with 500k on clock.. engine and gearbox were sound and it was really economical

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RoverDan · 2nd February 2018, 21:30

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Originally Posted by DMGRS

I have a VW Phaeton, and I bought it on the 27th December - it's been in the garage under repair since the 9th January.

That says all it needs to for VW quality - so far, not very impressed.

VW = Virtually Working?

Or are we about to witness the birth of DMGRVWS?

Mr Bone · 2nd February 2018, 23:56

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Originally Posted by DMGRS

I have a VW Phaeton, and I bought it on the 27th December - it's been in the garage under repair since the 9th January.

That says all it needs to for VW quality - so far, not very impressed.

What's the problem with it Matt? Mechanically the Phaeton is very similar to my Touareg.

timspencer · 3rd February 2018, 08:16

Ill raise my hand, and it pains me to say it as I have worked for a VW dealer for over 15 years, and have to agree the modern diesels aint what they were, EGR and DMF problems are all too apparent and not good enough...... The old 1.9TDI pd as in Mk4/5 and Bora were a bit noisy but very strong and simple, the PD engines do seem to last.

The 1.4 petrol TSI 122/125ps engine are very good and I've never heard of one failing, and driven sensibly will do 45mpg.....DONT go for the twin charged 140/170ps unless you run them on Super Unleaded the heads fail!

seems to be the most reliable car you can buy is a Toyota Corolla 1.6, Astra or Focus 1.6, all straight forward petrol twin cam engines without turbos.....having been around all of them I confirm they all seem good.

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murphyv310 This is my second home Hyundai i10 998cc Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 6,602 Thanks: 2,088 Thanked 2,298 Times in 1,349 Posts	Hi. None of the current diesels in my mind are going to prove the excellent reliability of earlier offerings from PSA & VAG. I had an Audi 80 with the AAZ TDI unit and a ZX Turbo with the XUD engine, the XUD was wonderful and the Audi good too till the silly front pulley chucked it. My mate has a Toureg, the new model and it is a 1.4 petrol, other than a little turbo lag it is very good. Time to move on from diesel to new generation petrol engines then it will be Electric and that's it! __________________ Cheers from Trevor MM0KJJ

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Ennine Posted a thing or two Ford Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Portmahomack Posts: 1,330 Thanks: 545 Thanked 317 Times in 193 Posts	Come on fella's. This thread is starting to read like one on another forum talking about the horrors of owning a Rover !! No offence Trevor, isn't there a slight contradiction in there? Your Audi was great till it blew up. Seriously though. Good and bad in all. Improvements have been made to the engines and some types of DSG boxes have (in the past) given a lot of trouble, depending on the type. Nothing is bombproof and there will always be problems with any car. I'm not losing any sleep about my 170CR or its 6 speed wet clutch box, no nightmares about my DPF. I'm much more concerned about the lack of walnut and complete absence of soul. If I can't introduce any of the latter, that's the only reason I would get rid. Nige __________________ Ni9e How to: Replace touch screen Navall II [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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timspencer Gets stuck in MG ZTT Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: BURTON ON TRENT Posts: 854 Thanks: 125 Thanked 283 Times in 153 Posts	Ill raise my hand, and it pains me to say it as I have worked for a VW dealer for over 15 years, and have to agree the modern diesels aint what they were, EGR and DMF problems are all too apparent and not good enough...... The old 1.9TDI pd as in Mk4/5 and Bora were a bit noisy but very strong and simple, the PD engines do seem to last. The 1.4 petrol TSI 122/125ps engine are very good and I've never heard of one failing, and driven sensibly will do 45mpg.....DONT go for the twin charged 140/170ps unless you run them on Super Unleaded the heads fail! seems to be the most reliable car you can buy is a Toyota Corolla 1.6, Astra or Focus 1.6, all straight forward petrol twin cam engines without turbos.....having been around all of them I confirm they all seem good. Last edited by timspencer; 3rd February 2018 at 08:20..

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Comfortably Numb Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Penrith Posts: 1,336 Thanks: 165 Thanked 303 Times in 241 Posts	As I have said elsewhere, the best Audi/VAG diesel was the 1.9tdi (Red i), which is what Audi VAG fans say. Around 2005, they switched to the 2.0L diesels, which put additional ancilliaries on the cam belt, making it more susceptible to failure. My old B5 Audi A4 suffered a tensioner failure on an ancilliary belt, my later B6 Avant 1.9TDi (2003) had a fantastic motor, but an alternator clutch fault was spotted by the indie VW specialist before it failed, and I had it replaced at 135,000. They start to snatch, and you can see and hear the tensioner jumping as it snatches., and it isn't long before either the belt, clutch or tensioner goes bang. But with reasonable maintenance, those engines are easily capable of 300,000.

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LeeW Newbie Rover 75 2.0 V6 CLUB SE Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Chester le Street Posts: 18 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I had a Tiguan 2.0 TDI as a lease car for 3 years. Other than 1 service it ran perfectly for 30,000. I now have had a Seat Alhambra with the same engine for 6 months and so far so good.