Front lower wishbones issue - poor fitting/parts?

[KeithA]

Hi all.

Would appreciate some opinions here. Had a pair of lower wishbones bushes fitted quite recently, at the beginning of August, as they were mot advisories.

We now seem to have a little bit of a knock from driver's side - not sure if immediately after the above work, we're not driving much at the moment. It happens at slow speeds, sometimes turning and sometimes on rough ground (not speed bumps). It isn't that much of a knock.

First suspect for me was the drop link, but I can't detect any movement. So I raised that side onto stands and tried levering the wheel about a bit..... Couldn't find the knock, but noticed the wishbone bush on that side looks odd..... Picture attached.

Poor quality part separating and working rearwards? Is that a plastic inner? Or just poorly fitted?

It's clear where the bush was (or the original one was).

I'll upload pictures of the other side on the first reply, that looks ok to me and the inner appears metallic .... So 2 different parts it would appear.

(As a footnote I had asked them to fit the dgmrs ones, but they won't do customer supplied parts. )

Interested in your thoughts/comments.

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[KeithA]

Pictures of other side, which looks ok to me

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[Phil-T4]

Both are wrong, the OS one has separated and needs replacing, the NS one has not been fitted correctly.

[alanaslan]

Originally Posted by KeithA

Pictures of other side, which looks ok to me

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Both bushes are scrap the offside bush metalestac insert has failed compleetly. the NHearside bush has been forced on forcing out the bush materal from the metal carrier.

I note from your post that the garage refuse to fit customer supplied parts. in this case it is a good thing. the garage have supplied you with parts which they have damaged whilst fitting them to your car. Trading standards will happly take this one on as your photographs show that either the parts they supplied were not fit for purpose, or they "the Garage" damaged the parts during fitting, leaving the car in a condition that could lead to an accadent due to the failed bushes being fitted.


Usualy I am fighting these people to fit my parts, over the years I have had many a CEO appologising for a branch refusing to fit a customer supplied part.



In your case. the garage need to replace the defective/dammaged parts urgently as a mater of safety. currently the car would fail a vehicle inspection on damaged front wishbone rear mounting bushes depending on the tester it may even get a unsafe to leave premises until repaired.



I do hope this is a local garage and not a National Chain. the garage should be giving you a car to use while their poor workmanship on your car is repaired and the dammaged parts are replaced with NEW Correct parts. I would also be asking to see the currently fitted parts after they have replaced them. I would photograph these parts and request to know the supplier was.

without seeing the car up close it is hard to say if it has been a defective part fitted badly or just a part fitted badly causing dammage to the new part.



I am asuming it is a small local garage that have no quality contorl as the repair as photographed should never have left the work shop.
happy motoring
Alan

[KeithA]

Originally Posted by Phil-T4

Both are wrong, the OS one has separated and needs replacing, the NS one has not been fitted correctly.

Hi Phil. Thanks for the reply.... But what's wrong with the fitting of the NS one please?

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[Phil-T4]

The only thing you should be seeing at the rear of the bush is approx 1/4 inch of the arm poking out, not the bush material!

[ZedTeeT]

Agree with Phil, that's not right, either cheap and nasty parts or fitted by a ham-fisted oaf.............. or both!

[Saga Lout]

Originally Posted by Phil-T4

The only thing you should be seeing at the rear of the bush is approx 1/4 inch of the arm poking out, not the bush material!

It's been fitted correctly, the bolts will put the line up in the perfect position, but the bonding of the bush in the carrier and the tightness of the fit are non existent. The bush centre is slowly working backwards every time it moves, it's not flexing in the carrier, it's just rotating until it falls out. This is a poor item and you need to get your money back.

[Odd Job]

What make are the arms please?

[Mike Noc]

To me it looks like either the arms are a bit too big or the bushes a bit too small, so the arms haven't gone as far into the bushes as they should have.
Whoever fitted them should have dressed the hexagonal flats of the arms with a file to ensure a good snug but not too tight a fit - easily and quickly done as they are aluminium.