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Old 17th June 2022, 14:05   #16
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Originally Posted by wraymond View Post
As UK has just as much interest in the outcome of any such referendum, there is good reason to enable the rest of UK to take part in any Scottish referendum. After all, Scotland was enabled in the EU Leave vote. Seems equitable to me.

Given there is no small amount of antipathy towards Ms Sturgeon, and only she, the outcome could be Scotland-Stay and The Rest of UK -Leave. Of course that would lead to huge unrest. I can hear it now: Miscount!, Miscount!
Presumably 6 years ago you were calling for the whole of the EU to be allowed to vote on Brexit?



I absolutely agree with mbev's sentiment, but it's already too late - the issue is already deeply divisive and will become worse. Brexit has been a perfect dress rehearsal for what is to come: those backing the status quo will complacently assume they will win and run an entirely inept campaign, then at the last minute realize they are heading for defeat and start making threats which will alienate many of the undecided. Meanwhile those pushing for change will come out with all sorts of unachievable fantasies about how good life will be outside, blame all the country's ills on the larger entity which they want to escape, and ignore the numerous valid questions about the practicalities of how it will (or, rather, won't) work. Given the perceived betrayal of No voters on the EU issue and general discontent with issues which are wrongly attributed to the Union, the Yes camp will attract much greater support this time and romp home to victory - which will be the cue for years (decades?) of acrimony and wrangling over all the resulting issues which no one wanted to discuss properly before the vote because the results would have been unpalatable.
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