Paint work!

Clickernick · 15th March 2011, 17:19

Evening gents!

I have need of a professional paint outfit in the Beds/Bucks reigon.

I have had a replacement front wing sprayed up all nice and shiney in JEL by a friend in the business and although the recipe was produced from a computer, the finished colour is out by not a small amount.

It cant be that hard to get right but i would like to get other opinions first.

chrissyboy · 15th March 2011, 17:23

when i had mine done they buffed the whole car up so the whloe car looked like it had been resprayed, mind you the spray job was a perfect match in royal blue,any body shop should be able to help you,personally i cant see how they got the colour wrong in the first place .

calibrax · 15th March 2011, 17:29

Colour is probably correct. The problem is your car isn't new! so the colour will have dulled/faded over time and the panels surrounding the wing will need to be blended in to the wing, so it's not so obvious that it's been resprayed.

pab · 15th March 2011, 17:39

sorry i can't help you with a recommendation of a bodyshop in your area,most well appointed shops can work wonders when it comes to paint suppliers who can supply paints according to colour fade having been exposed to the elements over the years.

Tim_Burgess · 15th March 2011, 17:40

IIRC there are two different shades of Wedgewood Blue - one for Cowley cars and one for Longbridge. But I guess the paint codes are different.

From personal experience, the darker the colour the more forgiving it is, anything with a high silver content like Wedgewood or Moonstone (or Silver!

) will look off if you put the fresly painted panel against the original - hence the reason bodyshops end up spraying the side of the car when only one panel is damaged.

Clickernick · 15th March 2011, 17:46

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Originally Posted by calibrax

Colour is probably correct. The problem is your car isn't new! so the colour will have dulled/faded over time and the panels surrounding the wing will need to be blended in to the wing, so it's not so obvious that it's been resprayed.

I cant agree sorry, the newly sprayed wing is completely diferent to any paint on my car inc the door shuts and other parts not exposed to open sunlight.

The wing i am taking off has been resprayed in the past but the repair was pants, however the colour match is spot on so I know it can be done!

The friend who sprayed it said he would flatten off the door and bonnet and blend the colour in, and re laquer. But then i will have an off colour wing with the car forced to match! And more unnecessary paint work to boot!

Pearl Wedgwood blue JEL is not a colour that fades like say solid red or yellow.

So much for computer matching eh!

calibrax · 16th March 2011, 09:36

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Originally Posted by Clickernick

I cant agree sorry, the newly sprayed wing is completely diferent to any paint on my car inc the door shuts and other parts not exposed to open sunlight.

The wing i am taking off has been resprayed in the past but the repair was pants, however the colour match is spot on so I know it can be done!

The friend who sprayed it said he would flatten off the door and bonnet and blend the colour in, and re laquer. But then i will have an off colour wing with the car forced to match! And more unnecessary paint work to boot!

Pearl Wedgwood blue JEL is not a colour that fades like say solid red or yellow.

So much for computer matching eh!

Well, obviously I haven't seen your car so I can't see how bad the match is. But as Tim says above, any paint with a high silver content is hard to match, because even the angle it is sprayed at will result in variations in shade, which can be very pronounced.

empsburna · 16th March 2011, 11:10

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Originally Posted by Clickernick

Pearl Wedgwood blue JEL is not a colour that fades like say solid red or yellow.

So much for computer matching eh!

Did they match the colour using some sort of spectrophotometer or pick it from a list?

Clickernick · 16th March 2011, 15:00

No, the code is entered into a computer containing a databse of all manufacturers paint codes and it supplies the recipie for which the painter chappie can proceed to draw the contents from various cartriges of colour and such like.

I feel this process is too hit and miss as it can not allow for the human error,,say adding a minute drop too much of one ingredient or another,thereby throwing the whole shooting match into confusion!!

Clickernick · 16th March 2011, 15:03

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Originally Posted by calibrax

Well, obviously I haven't seen your car so I can't see how bad the match is. But as Tim says above, any paint with a high silver content is hard to match, because even the angle it is sprayed at will result in variations in shade, which can be very pronounced.

yeah, I understand this point totally.

I feel that it needs a touch more silver and a touch less blue!!

Oh well!! Happy days!! I'll get it sorted one way or 'tother.

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chrissyboy This is my second home lovely little ford focus. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: East Dulwich Posts: 7,877 Thanks: 2 Thanked 82 Times in 68 Posts	when i had mine done they buffed the whole car up so the whloe car looked like it had been resprayed, mind you the spray job was a perfect match in royal blue,any body shop should be able to help you,personally i cant see how they got the colour wrong in the first place . __________________ [ I'm really confused. -I keep dreaming I'm an insomniac

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calibrax Posted a thing or two BMW 4 Series Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Rochester, Kent Posts: 1,975 Thanks: 29 Thanked 37 Times in 28 Posts	Colour is probably correct. The problem is your car isn't new! so the colour will have dulled/faded over time and the panels surrounding the wing will need to be blended in to the wing, so it's not so obvious that it's been resprayed. __________________ Steve 2004 MG ZT+ CDTi 160 (sadly now gone!) 2015 BMW 435d GranCoupe XDrive

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Clickernick Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Connie SE Tourer Triumph Street Triple R Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bletchley, Milton Keynes Posts: 1,163 Thanks: 75 Thanked 91 Times in 65 Posts	No, the code is entered into a computer containing a databse of all manufacturers paint codes and it supplies the recipie for which the painter chappie can proceed to draw the contents from various cartriges of colour and such like. I feel this process is too hit and miss as it can not allow for the human error,,say adding a minute drop too much of one ingredient or another,thereby throwing the whole shooting match into confusion!! __________________ Real walnut interior. Original refurbished Forked Spokes 16” with Michelin Primacy 4 rubber, Pioneer AVH-Z9200DAB double din Wi Fi phone integration. Retrofitted twin front horns. 160 re-map. Revotec fan. Silicone intercooler hoses and ‘O ring’ replacement. Top hose thermostat. New walnut and smokestone steering wheel with cruise upgrade. Brembo Brakes. Ceramic coated rear Exhaust. L/engine mount, Hydramount, Bosch MAF. Focal Access Drivers and Focal Amp.

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pab Banned MG ZT V6 190+ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Leeds Posts: 33,223 Thanks: 41 Thanked 1,614 Times in 1,416 Posts	sorry i can't help you with a recommendation of a bodyshop in your area,most well appointed shops can work wonders when it comes to paint suppliers who can supply paints according to colour fade having been exposed to the elements over the years.