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22nd September 2019, 20:02 | #1 |
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Is the Rover 75 / MG ZT a classic car or not?
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22nd September 2019, 20:08 | #2 |
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Will be by 2022 - great styling and of course last British owned, designed and produced mass production car - had some work done on my sills by a local body shop - they said " it was a privilege to work on the car - last of its kind?"
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22nd September 2019, 20:23 | #3 |
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The "Classic Shows" organisation accept cars over 15 years old onto the show field , so that's currently up to 2004
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22nd September 2019, 21:48 | #4 |
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Absolutely! After they start to get on the other side of 20 years old, values will go up significantly, as there will be fewer left. They must be close to reaching the bottom end of their values, certainly in the UK.
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23rd September 2019, 06:09 | #5 |
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At the moment I'd say they are on the brink as some shows refuse them. I have been refused twice with my 02. Personally, I think they are a classic, but opinions obviously vary. I get classic insurance though. ☺
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23rd September 2019, 06:27 | #6 |
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I always worked on 20 years old as the “rule of thumb”?
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23rd September 2019, 07:16 | #7 |
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Mine will always be a classic to me!
Personally I believe the MG has a much better chance, just because it's called an MG. Rover, history has shown the Rovers are never worth very much, however the 75 is the last British mass produced car so maybe, maybe not. Then we have the issue of electric vehicles taking over which may or may not throw a spanner in the works. In future years i can just imagine parents telling their children not to go anywhere near that thing because they are dangerous and will kill you. Basically, I think it's anyone's guess. If we could predict things like this we would all be lottery winners. Which reminds me, best get my ticket for tomorrow's euro millions lol.
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24th September 2019, 09:51 | #9 |
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A lot of what is being said about being the road and classic status, I think needs clarified with 'in our lifetime'.
75 and zts will be a classic in the 'traditional' sense of the automotive term within our lifetime, but attaining vintage status wont be. But then look at vintage cars now. The fuels used are not the same as they were designed to run on. So the handful of vintage 75s and zts in 60 years that survive, will be brought with adaptations to run. And looked upon by a generation who will see a Tesla as being a classic as we see a p5b now. And when we look at those running a 1910 Vauxhall , we think, 'how do they keep that going'. They do though but with effort that only a few are willing to entertain. Do we suggest that they cannot be original to run on the current spec of fuel? No we congratulate them on their efforts. Just as those in the future with adapted for the times, will be congratulated for keeping them going. Sent from my SM-A600FN using Tapatalk
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24th September 2019, 11:52 | #10 |
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Of course both the 75 and ZT are classics, they are the last of a design style that we as enthusiasts admire. But a classic is also in the eyes of the beholder. The exotic manufacturers classics are obvious but the lowly ones marks get knocked by reputation. Fords are no better in my experience for reliability rust etc than a Morris or a Triumph but the values of them are polls apart. The 75 will always be dogged by the reputation it has outside the enthusiasts for Rovers and this will hold back values. The Clarkson effect still rubs off today on classic values. A good Dolomite Sprint will be worth £7000 - £13000+ but an Escort 1300 can fetch that and a sporting version 2 to 3 times that making restorations and saving them more viable. Future restoration work will always be considered against actual value as today, and any future costs of conversions to keep them on the road will become cheaper but will it be cost effective for the average owner? Like today probably not, so the survivors will be fewer than we may expect.
As for insurance companies recognising classics, recently I was looking to insure a 75 on a classic policy. Even my current classic insurance company wouldn't accept it, they would at 20 years old but not before. However they will insure a ZT. The badge makes it acceptable, even for a late registration, which we all would find crazy, but that's insurance. |
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