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wraymond · 7th September 2020, 15:56

We have gross maladministration, which I won't go into, locally and affecting the family which could have developed into fatality more than once. When you question anything that is obviously contrary to adequate treatment you get the run-around that develops into hostility and even aggression in even getting to the root cause is impossible.

What I can say is a family member needed a Cov test urgently, for a three-times cancelled critical operation, which we were told had not arrived at the hospital in time. Family member was given an alternative source to go to for an immediate alternative test. In Cheshire. From Essex. This is from an alleged 'University' hospital.

It's about time those responsible were identified and removed. It seems under-par/bad performance in one ship of the state adequately confirms eligibility for a promotion to another.

kaiser · 7th September 2020, 16:21

This is an orchestrated farce, worldwide.
IMF, WHO and other super structures are trying to keep the people in lockdown until a vaccine arrives. What is in the vaccine, only God knows.
The virus has largely run its course in countries like Sweden, and the number of dead is drastically reduced. We are at levels far below normal flue epidemics.
There is thus no longer much talk about dying, more about number of infections.
This whole plandemic makes less and less sense, unless you realize what we are up against.
And then you see it has little to do with any disease.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/w...-restrictions/
Even the Australians are slowly waking up.
And the EU is supporting Bill Gates/WHO with 400 million EURO for his/their vaccination efforts!
https://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachric...Millionen-Euro
What's there not to like!?

Roll up your sleeve, Sir.! or............................

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/09/...ss-submission/

SideValve · 7th September 2020, 18:57

The governments action in scrapping PHE is also very questionable.
I dont have a problem with the actual decision to scrap it and replace it. They are the govt and can make that sort of decision.

But they are scrapping it when they dont know what to replace it with.
If I am scrapping something I generally have an idea of what would be better.

So they are paying a foreign consultancy £500,000 to come up with the "vision" for the new organisation.
Oh, and access to patient data (our data) gathered by the new organisation for SEVEN YEARS.

I think you can tell its a long time to the next election, they appear to be implementing whatever mad ideas wander across their fevered brows with giving a hoot.

VVC-Geeza · 8th September 2020, 07:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiser

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/09/...ss-submission/

That really is thought provoking even if you decide to dismiss it.Is it all about control of the masses on a worldwide scale.

wraymond · 8th September 2020, 09:51

There are many things about what's happening that gets hackles raised. For me, apart from the self-induced pandempanic, it is the world-wide seemingly deliberate attack on the Economies in virtually every part of the world.

Ordinarily the hugely powerful and influential banking sector would exert their extensive powers to limit, hinder, or totally close down the capabilities of nations. Their studied silence and non-intervention is a worry. Maybe it's rooted in the realisation that in a massive and unprecedented unrepayable debt crisis a restart from zero is favoured?

Now, they seem to be actively allowing things to go over a cliff. And therein lie the suspicions and doubt that fosters the unhelpful (?) surge in social demonstrations that only serve to throw kindling on the flames.

kaiser · 8th September 2020, 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by VVC-Geeza

That really is thought provoking even if you decide to dismiss it.Is it all about control of the masses on a worldwide scale.

That is what this is about. Raw power:
We have been warned so many times, but to little avail:

http://edwardcurtin.com/from-terrori...pian-progress/

Graham1961 · 8th September 2020, 22:11

Just out of curiosity, does anyone think it will be better next year ??

stocktake · 9th September 2020, 08:56

I really hope this is not related to the vaccine

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coron...?ocid=msedgntp

Parker · 9th September 2020, 10:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham1961

Just out of curiosity, does anyone think it will be better next year ??

It won't improve until people learn how to follow an arrow and learn what social distancing to 2 metres / 6 feet actually looks like!

Oh and get your sensible head on go out only when really necessary and take care. Do you really need to go shopping for stretched leggings?!

I live opposite a school, like a swarm of bees on Tuesday first day back despite the signs and the roads painted, numpty parents still pull up on the zigzag to let little precious out

As a society we have no hope....

Graham1961 · 9th September 2020, 10:50

I cannot help but think with lockdowns you suppress the virus, but you cannot have lockdowns forever, when you slacken off the restrictions, the virus erupts.

I hope we do get back to some sort of normality as soon as possible.

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wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,195 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	We have gross maladministration, which I won't go into, locally and affecting the family which could have developed into fatality more than once. When you question anything that is obviously contrary to adequate treatment you get the run-around that develops into hostility and even aggression in even getting to the root cause is impossible. What I can say is a family member needed a Cov test urgently, for a three-times cancelled critical operation, which we were told had not arrived at the hospital in time. Family member was given an alternative source to go to for an immediate alternative test. In Cheshire. From Essex. This is from an alleged 'University' hospital. It's about time those responsible were identified and removed. It seems under-par/bad performance in one ship of the state adequately confirms eligibility for a promotion to another. __________________ member no. 235

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kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	This is an orchestrated farce, worldwide. IMF, WHO and other super structures are trying to keep the people in lockdown until a vaccine arrives. What is in the vaccine, only God knows. The virus has largely run its course in countries like Sweden, and the number of dead is drastically reduced. We are at levels far below normal flue epidemics. There is thus no longer much talk about dying, more about number of infections. This whole plandemic makes less and less sense, unless you realize what we are up against. And then you see it has little to do with any disease. https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/w...-restrictions/ Even the Australians are slowly waking up. And the EU is supporting Bill Gates/WHO with 400 million EURO for his/their vaccination efforts! https://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachric...Millionen-Euro What's there not to like!? Roll up your sleeve, Sir.! or............................ https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/09/...ss-submission/ __________________ Worth his V8 in gold Last edited by kaiser; 7th September 2020 at 18:36..

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wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,195 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	There are many things about what's happening that gets hackles raised. For me, apart from the self-induced pandempanic, it is the world-wide seemingly deliberate attack on the Economies in virtually every part of the world. Ordinarily the hugely powerful and influential banking sector would exert their extensive powers to limit, hinder, or totally close down the capabilities of nations. Their studied silence and non-intervention is a worry. Maybe it's rooted in the realisation that in a massive and unprecedented unrepayable debt crisis a restart from zero is favoured? Now, they seem to be actively allowing things to go over a cliff. And therein lie the suspicions and doubt that fosters the unhelpful (?) surge in social demonstrations that only serve to throw kindling on the flames. __________________ member no. 235

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Graham1961 Moderator / RS East Scotland Rover 75 1.8 Conn Se saloon Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Berwick, East Lothian Posts: 4,738 Thanks: 4,143 Thanked 753 Times in 563 Posts	Just out of curiosity, does anyone think it will be better next year ?? __________________ Graham.

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stocktake Vis Whiz Rover 75 2.5 auto Saloon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: LEEDS Posts: 20,591 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 3,056 Times in 1,621 Posts	I really hope this is not related to the vaccine https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coron...?ocid=msedgntp __________________ Dave... Lost a few stones and a Gall Bladder and part of a bile duct and all of my dignity in the suppository incident

9th September 2020, 10:50	#390
Graham1961 Moderator / RS East Scotland Rover 75 1.8 Conn Se saloon Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Berwick, East Lothian Posts: 4,738 Thanks: 4,143 Thanked 753 Times in 563 Posts	I cannot help but think with lockdowns you suppress the virus, but you cannot have lockdowns forever, when you slacken off the restrictions, the virus erupts. I hope we do get back to some sort of normality as soon as possible. __________________ Graham.