Where is the hole?

kraanc · 7th August 2017, 10:09

After car wash this happened:
https://i.imgur.com/1M71Eeu.jpg
Water in drivers footwell on rubber carpet. My feet are dry. And i am aware of plenum drain problems. This must be something else.

Also when i drive in shorts i feel air breeze on my legs under the stearing wheel somewhere, even when all aircon and cabin wentilation are turned off.

TomRS · 7th August 2017, 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by kraanc

After car wash this happened:
https://i.imgur.com/1M71Eeu.jpg
Water in drivers footwell on rubber carpet. My feet are dry. And i am aware of plenum drain problems. This must be something else.

Also when i drive in shorts i feel air breeze on my legs under the stearing wheel somewhere, even when all aircon and cabin wentilation are turned off.

Is that left hand drive?

I know the clutch line runs through the firewall and is protected by a grommit.. that could be missing.
But thats a guess, feeling a breeze would mean a larger more obvious hole, i'd have the carpet up and check everything.

madeupname · 7th August 2017, 10:17

There's a huge rubber cover behind the pedals, mine was dislodged, yours could be missing entirely. I agree with Tom, peel the carpet behind the pedals back and take a look.

KWIL · 7th August 2017, 10:27

The steering shaft goes through a huge rubber grommet!

kraanc · 7th August 2017, 10:29

Yes. It is left hand drive.

Avulon · 7th August 2017, 11:09

For water in footwell - check the sunroof drains at the bottom of the A pillar (if you have sunroof). The air breeze is probably just what is being pushed through the AC system by the car forward movement and coming through the footwell air vents. If you have climate control (digital controller) it will do this: if you have the three knobs type then air will be pushed through to whichever vent is selected by the directional control. Turn the climate control unit on and set it properly.

Coups · 7th August 2017, 16:13

Thinking here though that the sunroof drains wouldn't pool as they have in the picture. They'd be behind the carpet not on top of the rubber mat. That's proper foamed up soapy stuff. Like if the door hadn't been properly closed, the window slightly open or top of door not sealing right in its frame.

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Avulon · 7th August 2017, 19:10

Didn't have chance to look at the photo earlier, looking at that makes me think door seal is leaking or door / window wasn't fully shut during washing.

there's enough there that easy enough to sit in the car while someone goes around the door and window with a pressure hose while you watch for where it's coming in.

kraanc · 17th August 2017, 18:16

I was in the car with whole family while going through washer and none of us seen any drop of water on ourselves or somewhere else. Only on that rubber mat. I am aware of plenum drains etc....

Arryhall · 17th August 2017, 19:06

Drains wouldn't have done that ( I doubt!) as when mine leaked, and they all did, they leaked under the carpet, and the first I knew of it was when I leaned on the carpet and it then soaked through the underlay. Yeuch!
I'd agree with the missing \ dislodged steering rack grommet. It is a ruddy great big rubber thing in front of your feet, so water would flow onto the carpet coming through here, rather than under the carpet coming from the drain holes.

If there was no drippage through windows or door seals, it has to come from the front, BUT, I'm not sure how the soapy water would get behind the engine block like that. The only other thing I can think of is window seals: them stupid plastic doofers that seem to leak sometimes, but not convinced that would cause water on the footwell with no other noticeable drippage.

Sorry I'm not much help (or in fact, ANY help!) but keep us posted. I need to know this now.

7th August 2017, 10:09	#1
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7th August 2017, 10:17	#3
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7th August 2017, 11:09	#6
Avulon This is my second home 1.8t Tourer Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tanelorn Posts: 4,830 Thanks: 956 Thanked 1,148 Times in 916 Posts	For water in footwell - check the sunroof drains at the bottom of the A pillar (if you have sunroof). The air breeze is probably just what is being pushed through the AC system by the car forward movement and coming through the footwell air vents. If you have climate control (digital controller) it will do this: if you have the three knobs type then air will be pushed through to whichever vent is selected by the directional control. Turn the climate control unit on and set it properly. __________________ Need a T4 ?: T4 Owners Map thanks to Stevestrat ( use at your own risk) Where?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanelorn Mods/Retrofits: PCV vortex 'filter'; bluetooth; inline thermostat; reversing sensors; plenum spyhole ; headlamp washers ; Diy mp3 player replacing CD multichanger; FBH with remote; Headlamp washers; black/chrome front grille, rear blind; Xenon projectors To do: puddle lights; 2 Din cd/nav to fit; boot release button

7th August 2017, 19:10	#8
Avulon This is my second home 1.8t Tourer Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tanelorn Posts: 4,830 Thanks: 956 Thanked 1,148 Times in 916 Posts	Didn't have chance to look at the photo earlier, looking at that makes me think door seal is leaking or door / window wasn't fully shut during washing. there's enough there that easy enough to sit in the car while someone goes around the door and window with a pressure hose while you watch for where it's coming in. __________________ Need a T4 ?: T4 Owners Map thanks to Stevestrat ( use at your own risk) Where?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanelorn Mods/Retrofits: PCV vortex 'filter'; bluetooth; inline thermostat; reversing sensors; plenum spyhole ; headlamp washers ; Diy mp3 player replacing CD multichanger; FBH with remote; Headlamp washers; black/chrome front grille, rear blind; Xenon projectors To do: puddle lights; 2 Din cd/nav to fit; boot release button

7th August 2017, 10:27	#4
KWIL Precise Rover 75 Tourer 2.5KV6 Connoisseur SE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fleet Posts: 2,954 Thanks: 630 Thanked 617 Times in 480 Posts	The steering shaft goes through a huge rubber grommet!

7th August 2017, 10:29	#5
kraanc Loves to post MG ZT-T 190 2.5 V6 2003 manual Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Riga Posts: 349 Thanks: 49 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts	Yes. It is left hand drive.

7th August 2017, 16:13	#7
Coups Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Contemporary SE Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Dundee Posts: 1,941 Thanks: 545 Thanked 520 Times in 402 Posts	Thinking here though that the sunroof drains wouldn't pool as they have in the picture. They'd be behind the carpet not on top of the rubber mat. That's proper foamed up soapy stuff. Like if the door hadn't been properly closed, the window slightly open or top of door not sealing right in its frame. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

17th August 2017, 18:16	#9
kraanc Loves to post MG ZT-T 190 2.5 V6 2003 manual Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Riga Posts: 349 Thanks: 49 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts	I was in the car with whole family while going through washer and none of us seen any drop of water on ourselves or somewhere else. Only on that rubber mat. I am aware of plenum drains etc....

17th August 2017, 19:06	#10
Arryhall Loves to post Rover 75 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Biddulph Posts: 486 Thanks: 101 Thanked 145 Times in 90 Posts	Drains wouldn't have done that ( I doubt!) as when mine leaked, and they all did, they leaked under the carpet, and the first I knew of it was when I leaned on the carpet and it then soaked through the underlay. Yeuch! I'd agree with the missing \ dislodged steering rack grommet. It is a ruddy great big rubber thing in front of your feet, so water would flow onto the carpet coming through here, rather than under the carpet coming from the drain holes. If there was no drippage through windows or door seals, it has to come from the front, BUT, I'm not sure how the soapy water would get behind the engine block like that. The only other thing I can think of is window seals: them stupid plastic doofers that seem to leak sometimes, but not convinced that would cause water on the footwell with no other noticeable drippage. Sorry I'm not much help (or in fact, ANY help!) but keep us posted. I need to know this now.