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Old 7th March 2020, 23:14   #11
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Just get a Kmaps re map to 205 BHP - NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- marvelous - worth the money - out performs many a modern car.
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Old 7th March 2020, 23:15   #12
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Better torque perhaps?
... .... Too soon to know. One thing, impressive acceleration in 3rd and 4th when needing to get a move on today.
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Old 7th March 2020, 23:21   #13
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Just get a Kmaps re map to 205 BHP - NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- marvelous - worth the money - out performs many a modern car.
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... .... Too soon to know. One thing, impressive acceleration in 3rd and 4th when needing to get a move on today.
I would imagine if all else is the same, it will be the gearing playing the biggest role, with a aerodynamics having a small benefit (likely to be minuscule in reality). If there is in fact more torque (are the turbos the same?), that will push you into the seat more. EDIT:- just checked, torque is listed as the same, but the emissions are different, 193 to 174 for the 6. Suggest more efficient use of air and fuel .......

I would suggest too, noise and spring rates/damping could also add to the feeling too.
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Old 8th March 2020, 00:05   #15
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Just get a Kmaps re map to 205 BHP - NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- marvelous - worth the money - out performs many a modern car.

Are folks able to do that on the SIX? The Thief and Tamper Proof metal shroud surrounding the SIXes ECU is substantial... ... Maybe mine has had that treatment... merely guessing here. ... Mind you, "Owt for nowt" as they say dahn sarf.. ...Fuel consumption must take a hit!

It "appears" more lively than the SIX motor I put in my ZT-T which is no mean performer either. Mind you, based simply and limited to today's one off experience, appearances and first impressions can be deceptive.

On a number of occasions, I have had say four or more identical spec cars in my ownership over more than fifty years of car ownership now. No two cars are ever exactly the same. At one time, I had six MG ZT 1.8Ts in my ownership. One ZT-T was noticeably quicker than any of the others. It was my daily driver until sold. The turbcharger started blowing lots of blue stuff so I fitted another turbocharger I had rebuilt. When fitting the replacement turbo and MLS CHG, I noticed that the block was NOT a Turbo K-Series Block. It was another 1.8 Block drilled to take the Turbo Oil Drain Pipe. It did have a stainless Sports Cat and stainless rest of system too. A delight to drive but being in my least favourite MG-Rover colour, it had to go. This one:~ That's my older son at the wheel.



When I bought the car as a project, the Chav looking aftermarket PHAT exhaust Silencer had to GO. Then after cleaning it, I saw it was stainless steel. Soon after, when high up on the Inspection Ramps during the MoT, the tester called me over and pointed out the downpipe back exhaust, including sports cat was all Stainless Steel. He reckoned little change out of £500 for that little lot. Cue change of mind That must STAY...



After Clean Up... Stainless Steel revealed.



All back together :~



Whether that exhaust played any part I no idea. No louder than originals on other 1.8Ts I've driven.
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Old 8th March 2020, 00:26   #16
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I would imagine if all else is the same, it will be the gearing playing the biggest role, with a aerodynamics having a small benefit (likely to be minuscule in reality). If there is in fact more torque (are the turbos the same?), that will push you into the seat more. EDIT:- just checked, torque is listed as the same, but the emissions are different, 193 to 174 for the 6. Suggest more efficient use of air and fuel .......

I would suggest too, noise and spring rates/damping could also add to the feeling too.
The MG6 has FBW ( Fly By Wire ) Throttle Body Control... None of yer cable malarkey .. which I prefer..

There's much more Emissions Control Gubbins on the SIX. I removed all that and fitted blanks where necessary to fit the SIX engine into my now daily driver ZT-T 1.8T. By an amazing coincidence, the MG6 engine I bought from one of the MG and Rover specialists based just over the border in Oxfordshire ( One of those whose adverts appear in the banner headline at the top of these forum pages ) was a written off MG6 he was breaking which I had previously driven. How lucky was that because having driven the car, I knew the mileage and how good the engine was. Although totally unaware of that when I made the offer over the phone. No idea then it was the same car I had driven when it visited me sometime before... this one before meeting a premature end. Someone far wiser than , told me he would much rather be lucky than clever .. ...:~

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My last sight of it in the breakers being striped for parts. In the right colour too..

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Old 8th March 2020, 00:31   #17
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The turbocharger in the SIX Engine I bought was an Oriental wide ranging mixture of various manufacturers. Fitted to the Chinese made MG6, this Turbocharger had a Mitsubishi Logo ( Japanese ) on the works metal label. Made in .. wait for it. South Korea ... Global wossanames..
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Old 8th March 2020, 01:55   #18
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When I enquired about a remap I was told it was withdrawn due to not meeting EU emissions but on a plus they said ring back later in the year so maybe there might be one on the cards so I've opted for a free flow exhaust from Tony banks instead 😀

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Old 8th March 2020, 11:18   #19
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I've opted for a free flow exhaust from Tony banks instead 😀
Please post up your thoughts when you get it done. If the improvements are anywhere near what they claim it should be very noticeable.I'm looking to do the same along with a sports cat.
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Old 8th March 2020, 13:07   #20
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Banana has been mapped to 210 and has a ported head. Once on the move she will out gun a lot of others. But she is still on her factory fitted clutch and the turbo is the original, so I don’t tend to try and out accelerate cars from the lights.

Mileage is currently 209,600.

I was told that there are too many parameters to map the 6. However I would have a word with Chris Flanagan at Retro Lifestyle, best man for some advice. After all he built a 6 as an auto using the engine and box from a 75.
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