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Old 28th May 2019, 23:06   #1
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Has anyone one of these units installed in their R40, and if so what fascia adaptor plate did you use?

Link to the unit in question HERE

I have a generic 75 double din fascia plate bought for a super cheap unit linked to by Wes some time ago, however the Pioneer unit doesn't sit well with this fascia.

Pictures and suggestions welcome.

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Old 29th May 2019, 00:32   #2
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Has anyone one of these units installed in their R40, and if so what fascia adaptor plate did you use?

Link to the unit in question HERE

I have a generic 75 double din fascia plate bought for a super cheap unit linked to by Wes some time ago, however the Pioneer unit doesn't sit well with this fascia.

Pictures and suggestions welcome.

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I havent done it to the zt/75, although fitted one to my nieces old Corsa. If it is similar to this surround



as opposed to this surround

from THIS How To thread (which gives a crude but possibly effective workaround - but your head unit may be a lot heavier)

you will be on a hiding to nothing. On my niece's car, no matter what I did, the stereo always wanted to point upwards (gravity an' all that). Getting it decently secured was a major issue. With the second fascia, with a decent deep cage, the recessed sides and bottom, look like it will move the pivot point further back, in line the upper screw fixings to act against it (if that makes sense?).
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Old 29th May 2019, 06:21   #3
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I havent done it to the zt/75, although fitted one to my nieces old Corsa. If it is similar to this surround



as opposed to this surround

from THIS How To thread (which gives a crude but possibly effective workaround - but your head unit may be a lot heavier)

you will be on a hiding to nothing. On my niece's car, no matter what I did, the stereo always wanted to point upwards (gravity an' all that). Getting it decently secured was a major issue. With the second fascia, with a decent deep cage, the recessed sides and bottom, look like it will move the pivot point further back, in line the upper screw fixings to act against it (if that makes sense?).
Alan, the fascia plate I have at the moment is the same as the one in the picture at the top, however the one pictured at the bottom looks like it might do the job though.

I've just measured the escutcheon on the front of the wireless, and it's 170mm wide and 100mm deep approximately.

So if the one you have is the same as the bottom picture, and the hole is the right size, I'm sure I could cobble something together to mount the actual radio cage itself.

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That CT23RO01 Rover 75 double din fascia aperture measures 172x99mm, its not quite a true 2din size. I'm sure this style fascia was designed to fit the older aftermarket Kenwood 2din units.

The universal standard 2din size is 178x100mm, the MG7 fascia seems to match this universal size HERE...

Brian, If your Pioneer unit measures 170x100mm, you will only need to shave a millimetre from either the top or bottom, then tidy up using a Dremel.








As for getting a secure fit if using one of these fascia's, you need to alternate the two side brackets or use four brackets (2x on either side).
Make use of the units body pre-drilled threaded holes and bolt to the fascia, this will stop the shallow units from pivoting.
If fitting a standard size deep DD, you can either fit the same side brackets or support the unit at the rear.


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That CT23RO01 Rover 75 double din fascia aperture measures 172x99mm, its not quite a true 2din size. I'm sure this style fascia was designed to fit the older aftermarket Kenwood 2din units.

The universal standard 2din size is 178x100mm, the MG7 fascia seems to match this universal size HERE...

Brian, If your Pioneer unit measures 170x100mm, you will only need to shave a millimetre from either the top or bottom, then tidy up using a Dremel.








As for getting a secure fit if using one of these fascia's, you need to alternate the two side brackets or use four brackets (2x on either side).
Make use of the units body pre-drilled threaded holes and bolt to the fascia, this will stop the shallow units from pivoting.
If fitting a standard size deep DD, you can either fit the same side brackets or support the unit at the rear.


Hi Wes, the fascia I have is the one of the type in the upper picture, and has been previously carved out to accept the super cheap 7011B radio, the Pioneer fits after a fashion, but the top sticks out considerably when the unit is placed horizontally....if that makes sense.

This wasn't a problem with the slimline cheap unit as it could be pivoted to suit and it would still fit the hole in the centre console.

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Yes it does Bri, It sounds like your Pioneer unit is quite deep in size and is resting on the rear support bracket, its held on with one bolt.

If the bracket has already been removed, your unit must be resting on the rear frame of the dash, is there any moulding causing the unit to sit forward?

The MG7 fascia should be a much easier fit, as the inner aperture contour is vertical, rather than angled as per the CT23RO01 Rover 75 fasica.
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I also have a pioneer DD unit fitted to an Autoleads Rover facia.

The radio cage wouldn’t fit the aperture so I just used some Meccano type radio braketry to secure the DD unit to the facia in a very solid manner. It was just the right match for the radio unit on its own.

I did find I had to raise the rear of the unit in relation to the facia aperture to stop unwanted reflections when installed.

It then sits happily on the rubber shelf within the dash, no extra bracketry was needed to support the rear of the unit.

My next aim is to use the autoleads bespoke rover mg interface unit to connect the steering wheel controls. Oh,, and upgrade to Focal Access drivers.
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You need to get the Connects2 fascia but it will need to be fitted with a cage as the head unit is heavy
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Huge thanks to Alan "CLF" for sending me an MG7 fascia to try out

I shall be making some comparison measurements and manufacturing a bracket over the next day or so.

There will be pictures to follow I'm sure

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Huge thanks to Alan "CLF" for sending me an MG7 fascia to try out

I shall be making some comparison measurements and manufacturing a bracket over the next day or so.

There will be pictures to follow I'm sure

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glad it has arrived. I was just about to send you a message to check if it had arrived, as the tracking still shows it has not! Postman must have swam over
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