Scraping noise

peelaaa · 10th December 2020, 17:48

Hi,
Scraping noise is the best I can describe it coming from the rear of car. Not happening when applying foot brake.
But tried applying hand brake very lightly and noise went away and then returned a few minutes later.
I am assuming somethings up with the handbrake shoes but can I drive on this for a few days as need car for work and not able to get someone to look at it yet.
Thanks

cbr1100xx · 10th December 2020, 18:04

Most likely the pin has pulled through the back plate , quite common

peelaaa · 10th December 2020, 18:26

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Originally Posted by cbr1100xx

Most likely the pin has pulled through the back plate , quite common

When you say pin, is that inside the drum and part of the handbrake or on the outside?

cbr1100xx · 10th December 2020, 19:33

It's a pin that goes through from the rear of the back plate , and through the shoe , holding it in place.
The hole in the back plates rusts and the pin pulls through the hole , then it's not holding the shoe in place , hence the scrapping noise.
Use the search bar , lots of threads on this and how to fix using a different pin if the plates not to rusty.

I used a thin bolt,washer and nut on mine about 3 years ago and still working fine.

Stan

Mike Noc · 10th December 2020, 21:44

RPWC · 11th December 2020, 07:56

The hole in the backplate elongates with rust ,so the pin doesn’t grip the handbrake shoes. A remedy is to use a thin nut and bolt with a lock nut and washer fitted with the bolt head on the inside. You will need long nose pliers on one side to hold the nut in place as the trailing arm is in the way,so it’s difficult to see where the hole on the backplate is. Use the same method with the spring and obviously don’t nip the nut too tight to stop the shoe from moving.

Or you could buy a new backplate but then you have the hassle of stripping everything down and rebuilding.

roverbarmy · 11th December 2020, 09:01

It's sometimes just rust and dust in the handbrake brake drum but you need the drum off to clean it anyway. Clean, replace and adjust the shoes again.

peelaaa · 11th December 2020, 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPWC

The hole in the backplate elongates with rust ,so the pin doesn’t grip the handbrake shoes. A remedy is to use a thin nut and bolt with a lock nut and washer fitted with the bolt head on the inside. You will need long nose pliers on one side to hold the nut in place as the trailing arm is in the way,so it’s difficult to see where the hole on the backplate is. Use the same method with the spring and obviously don’t nip the nut too tight to stop the shoe from moving.

Or you could buy a new backplate but then you have the hassle of stripping everything down and rebuilding.

Thanks everyone. I may not have time to do this as quickly as I'd like to.
Is it ok to drive the car as it is for a few days?

10th December 2020, 17:48	#1
peelaaa Posted a thing or two 75 cdti 2004 contemporary Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: meath Posts: 1,551 Thanks: 272 Thanked 80 Times in 58 Posts	Scraping noise Hi, Scraping noise is the best I can describe it coming from the rear of car. Not happening when applying foot brake. But tried applying hand brake very lightly and noise went away and then returned a few minutes later. I am assuming somethings up with the handbrake shoes but can I drive on this for a few days as need car for work and not able to get someone to look at it yet. Thanks

10th December 2020, 18:04	#2
cbr1100xx Gets stuck in VW touareg Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: dunsop bridge Posts: 870 Thanks: 225 Thanked 414 Times in 235 Posts	Most likely the pin has pulled through the back plate , quite common __________________ WE WERE BOTH BORN ON THE 4th of JULY CAR DIED 15/11/2022---I'M STILL GOING (JUST)

10th December 2020, 19:33	#4
cbr1100xx Gets stuck in VW touareg Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: dunsop bridge Posts: 870 Thanks: 225 Thanked 414 Times in 235 Posts	It's a pin that goes through from the rear of the back plate , and through the shoe , holding it in place. The hole in the back plates rusts and the pin pulls through the hole , then it's not holding the shoe in place , hence the scrapping noise. Use the search bar , lots of threads on this and how to fix using a different pin if the plates not to rusty. I used a thin bolt,washer and nut on mine about 3 years ago and still working fine. Stan __________________ WE WERE BOTH BORN ON THE 4th of JULY CAR DIED 15/11/2022---I'M STILL GOING (JUST)

11th December 2020, 07:56	#6
RPWC This is my second home 75 model car Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 20,177 Thanks: 4,008 Thanked 5,083 Times in 3,114 Posts	The hole in the backplate elongates with rust ,so the pin doesn’t grip the handbrake shoes. A remedy is to use a thin nut and bolt with a lock nut and washer fitted with the bolt head on the inside. You will need long nose pliers on one side to hold the nut in place as the trailing arm is in the way,so it’s difficult to see where the hole on the backplate is. Use the same method with the spring and obviously don’t nip the nut too tight to stop the shoe from moving. Or you could buy a new backplate but then you have the hassle of stripping everything down and rebuilding. __________________ Cheers. Rich…

11th December 2020, 09:01	#7
roverbarmy This is my second home Roverless + 1.7D Sportage Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: East Norfolk Posts: 7,050 Thanks: 729 Thanked 2,021 Times in 1,449 Posts	It's sometimes just rust and dust in the handbrake brake drum but you need the drum off to clean it anyway. Clean, replace and adjust the shoes again. __________________ Oil in my veins!

10th December 2020, 21:44	#5
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