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Old 4th January 2021, 18:19   #1
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Car failed MOT recently. Cracking car, drives lovely. It’s been the daily for the last eighteen months since purchase.

MOT has failed on -

- Offside rear broken spring
- Nearside front wheel bearing rough when rotated
- Offside front shock absorber has serious leak
- Offside front track rod end ball joint has excessive play

Advisories are -

- Offside front wheel bearing slightly noisy
- Nearside rear upper suspension arm corroded
- Offside rear upper suspension arm corroded
- Rear sub frame corroded
- Nearside front tyre 3mm in places

So, what do I do? Car drives well, nice and smooth but has failed on the above issues with a few serious advisories, too. I was advised previous owner had done the rear arms not that long ago so I’m surprised this has come up in the MOT.

The bodywork of the car is OK. There is a couple of small patches of rust. The biggest damage on the bodywork is on the passenger side rear where I caught a high curb and it has put a dent near the sill area so this ideally needs fixed and treated to prevent rust issues.

Ideally, timing belt needs doing as no history of timing belt being done on the car.

I also have three other 75s!

I called up Rimmers today. They don’t have the correct spec rear springs for my car apparently but have another genuine paid but I don’t know of which engine variant. The cost of this is £111 plus VAT and postage.
Front shock is about £95.
Plus wheel bearing, ball joints etc.
I can’t do the work myself and would have to get a garage to do it. I fear this will cost an arm and a leg.

Just looking for some advise as I really don’t know what to do!

Thanks.
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Old 4th January 2021, 18:23   #2
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It's not a devastating failure list but if you're going to sort it then you may as well be prepared to invest in the car and address the advisories too if you intend to keep the car.
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Old 4th January 2021, 18:51   #3
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Are there any specialist MGR breakers in your area? Used parts are a fraction of the cost of new ones.

For my 75's recent MOT I had a used complete shocker, spring and link arm unit supplied and fitted for £100. I also had a used track rod end fitted. This was done at Blaydon but I am sure there will similar businesses nearer to you.
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Old 4th January 2021, 19:24   #4
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Car failed MOT recently. Cracking car, drives lovely. It’s been the daily for the last eighteen months since purchase.

MOT has failed on -

- Offside rear broken spring
- Nearside front wheel bearing rough when rotated
- Offside front shock absorber has serious leak
- Offside front track rod end ball joint has excessive play

Advisories are -

- Offside front wheel bearing slightly noisy
- Nearside rear upper suspension arm corroded
- Offside rear upper suspension arm corroded
- Rear sub frame corroded
- Nearside front tyre 3mm in places

So, what do I do? Car drives well, nice and smooth but has failed on the above issues with a few serious advisories, too. I was advised previous owner had done the rear arms not that long ago so I’m surprised this has come up in the MOT.

The bodywork of the car is OK. There is a couple of small patches of rust. The biggest damage on the bodywork is on the passenger side rear where I caught a high curb and it has put a dent near the sill area so this ideally needs fixed and treated to prevent rust issues.

Ideally, timing belt needs doing as no history of timing belt being done on the car.

I also have three other 75s!

I called up Rimmers today. They don’t have the correct spec rear springs for my car apparently but have another genuine paid but I don’t know of which engine variant. The cost of this is £111 plus VAT and postage.
Front shock is about £95.
Plus wheel bearing, ball joints etc.
I can’t do the work myself and would have to get a garage to do it. I fear this will cost an arm and a leg.

Just looking for some advise as I really don’t know what to do!

Thanks.
Are you sure they are genuine? I keep on challenging genuine.

Rover went out of business so long ago and springs seem to be a common thing to replace. I am surprised there are any genuine ones left at such a retailer. I'd ask who made them and when they were made.

My definition of genuine, made by the manufacturer that made the item when Rover were in business and supplied the item to Rover, the item has sat on a shelf ever since.

My definition of OEM, the company that made the item when Rover were in business and supplied to Rover but the item has been made since Rover went bust.

My definition of Pattern, made by a company that never made the part for Rover, never supplied the part to Rover.


Ask Rimmers who made the item and when it was made. See which one of the three definitions I offer it fits to. Then you can decide if genuine and worth the extra over OEM and pattern

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Old 4th January 2021, 19:29   #5
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Have a word with Dunc Rav, see what he can do for you.
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Old 4th January 2021, 19:32   #6
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are you sure they are genuine? I keep on challenging genuine.

Rover went out of business so long ago and springs seem to be a common thing to replace. I am surprised there are any genuine ones left at such a retailer. I'd ask who made them and when they were made.

My definition of genuine, made by the manufacturer that made the item when rover were in business and supplied the item to rover, the item has sat on a shelf ever since.

My definition of oem, the company that made the item when rover were in business and supplied to rover but the item has been made since rover went bust.

My definition of pattern, made by a company that never made the part for rover, never supplied the part to rover.


Ask rimmers who made the item and when it was made. See which one of the three definitions i offer it fits to. Then you can decide if genuine and worth the extra over oem and pattern

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try brigg springs they will make you what you want
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Car failed MOT recently. Cracking car, drives lovely ... So, what do I do?
You get it fixed Ravinder!

Ok, I know that it's going to be expensive but you won't be faced with this every year.

Note the advisories because after all, they are just observations. The OSF wheel bearing noise was no doubt noticed because the NS failed the test. Who hasn't got corroded rear suspension? The tyre will be ok for a while yet; keep your eye on it.

Which of your four 75s is this and what's the engine type and mileage?

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You get it fixed Ravinder!

Ok, I know that it's going to be expensive but you won't be faced with this every year.

Note the advisories because after all, they are just observations. The OSF wheel bearing noise was no doubt noticed because the NS failed the test. Who hasn't got corroded rear suspension? The tyre will be ok for a while yet; keep your eye on it.

Which of your four 75s is this and what's the engine type and mileage?

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This is currently a daily. Well, was until two weeks ago! It’s a 1.8 K series turbo. It’s on 93,000 miles now.

I also have a monogram 75 diesel saloon. A diesel tourer, a V6 tourer and a 220 coupe.
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Are you sure they are genuine? I keep on challenging genuine.

Rover went out of business so long ago and springs seem to be a common thing to replace. I am surprised there are any genuine ones left at such a retailer. I'd ask who made them and when they were made.

My definition of genuine, made by the manufacturer that made the item when Rover were in business and supplied the item to Rover, the item has sat on a shelf ever since.

My definition of OEM, the company that made the item when Rover were in business and supplied to Rover but the item has been made since Rover went bust.

My definition of Pattern, made by a company that never made the part for Rover, never supplied the part to Rover.


Ask Rimmers who made the item and when it was made. See which one of the three definitions I offer it fits to. Then you can decide if genuine and worth the extra over OEM and pattern

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Item 2 is actually per item 1. OEM (Original Equipment Manufactured) would be items made for the production line and replacement network. When that line finishes it's production run then those parts left over will
go into the "spares" network and can still be legally referred to as OEM. A good honest supplier will also use the term NOS (New, Old Stock).

You will be correct in that the OEM stuff at Longbridge and held in the network will be long exhausted. Therefore suppliers should not now use the term OEM (unless it is NOS). If the original manufacturing supplier makes a new batch (with the necessary legal side correct) they could refer to it, and often do, as "manufactured to original specification". Occasionally they might refer to the batch as "better than OE". This will mean some changes have been made (which needs more space for explanations).

Other terms are "pattern" which was explained to me has having general outlines as the original but might be made from inferior materials.

Hmmmmm…..seems to me that asking questions of the supplier is good to do and I bet it will be 'most informative'.

cheers,

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Fix it Rav. You know in your heart it’s the right thing to do. Best wishes Duncan


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