Got hit by an uninsured traveller

Dansrockin · 1st July 2018, 18:02

I was on my way to the shops earlier when I was cut up on a roundabout by a transit pick-up. We've had issues over the last week with travellers camping in a field across the road from us, and straight away I thought this is going to be trouble.
The driver got out and started getting mouthy saying I could see him coming and I should've waited as he was in a bigger vehicle! Even though I was on the roundabout already!
Anyway, he wrote down his details, name, reg number, phone number and insurance company. I gave him mine and he drove straight back up the hill towards the travellers camp. I still had my doubts so I rang LV, who were his supposed insurers, and guess what? No details of that reg on the system! I contacted the police, no insurance or tax, but the reg did belong to a white transit pick-up. Nothing they can do as there were no injuries, but they'll keep an eye out for it on the roads.
So, the damage! My passenger side headlight is smashed, the bumper is broken all around the light area, and the wing is dented.
I've managed to get hold of a replacement headlight, but I'm struggling with a wing and bumper.
I don't want to go through insurance as they'll just write the car off, and I'll lose my NCD.
Any chance someone out there has a passenger side wing and a front bumper for a mk1 75 in jbh Wedgewood blue going cheap? It would be very appreciated if anyone can help!

stocktake · 1st July 2018, 18:08

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Dansrockin · 1st July 2018, 18:50

Thanks Dave! I think I've managed to sort a bumper, but if it falls through I'll go for that if it's still available

AndyN01 · 1st July 2018, 19:21

So....

Being involved in a collision which causes damage and loss without any insurance or road tax (or whatever it's called!) apparently isn't a matter for the Police.

So no laws have been broken then? These "offenses" do not appear in Court for a Judge to consider if any law has been broken any the appropriate punishment?

Erm......

Andy.

STUBIE · 1st July 2018, 19:25

Is it not a crime to drive on a road without MOT and insurance?

The Policing of our land these days is ridiculous.

I'm sure if it was a anyone else they'd be right round.

Stubs

Dansrockin · 1st July 2018, 19:33

Exactly, if it was me or you, or anyone else that has a normal way of life, we'd be caught straight away and read the riot act. These bar stewards do what they want and couldn't care less who they hurt in the process and know that nothing can be done.
In a completely unrelated incident, my step daughter and her friend were walking through the park this afternoon when 2 of these travellers kids were hiding in bushes with an air gun, they shot at my daughter and her friend! Luckily no injuries, two pellets hit her backpack, but we reported it to the police, and we're still waiting to see someone 5 hours later! Apparently the police went to the site earlier but I can't see anything being done.

grivas · 2nd July 2018, 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyN01

So....

Being involved in a collision which causes damage and loss without any insurance or road tax (or whatever it's called!) apparently isn't a matter for the Police.

So no laws have been broken then? These "offenses" do not appear in Court for a Judge to consider if any law has been broken any the appropriate punishment?

Erm......

Andy.

Can't argue with our legal system! I always thought it was the best in the world! .
So evidently there is no need for licence MOT,insurance etc as our police force will not get involved apparently unless there is an injury.!

Avulon · 2nd July 2018, 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiser

This is not aimed at this particular case, as I don't have a clue what went on. So don't take this personally!

It basically takes two idiots to cause an accident, in most cases.

The idiot that causes the accident, and the other idiot that did not see it coming!
That is difficult to swallow, because most will say "I was in the right". And legally they might well be, but now they sit with the consequences.
Maybe better to be cautious even when in the right, especially if you are driving the lesser vehicle.

As my driving instructor told me, many years ago.
"Better to be alive for being cautious, than buried 9 feet under for being right!"
Many years of motor cycle driving has given me ample reasons to appreciate this advice.

Couldn't agree more with the above. As I found out through personal experience: you can take signage, white lines, arrows on the road, and anything else directing traffic and completely ignore it, especially on a roundabout. Whatever the highway code might say - forget it. If you're in a collision on a roundabout everyone involved is partly to blame in the eyes of our traffic law system (as it's practically applied).

No insurance, tax or MOT is a straightforward motoring offence though and if presented with a report the police should act.

1st July 2018, 18:02	#1
Dansrockin Posted a thing or two MG ZT number 1 of 25 celestial!! Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Banbury Posts: 1,967 Thanks: 208 Thanked 242 Times in 166 Posts	Got hit by an uninsured traveller I was on my way to the shops earlier when I was cut up on a roundabout by a transit pick-up. We've had issues over the last week with travellers camping in a field across the road from us, and straight away I thought this is going to be trouble. The driver got out and started getting mouthy saying I could see him coming and I should've waited as he was in a bigger vehicle! Even though I was on the roundabout already! Anyway, he wrote down his details, name, reg number, phone number and insurance company. I gave him mine and he drove straight back up the hill towards the travellers camp. I still had my doubts so I rang LV, who were his supposed insurers, and guess what? No details of that reg on the system! I contacted the police, no insurance or tax, but the reg did belong to a white transit pick-up. Nothing they can do as there were no injuries, but they'll keep an eye out for it on the roads. So, the damage! My passenger side headlight is smashed, the bumper is broken all around the light area, and the wing is dented. I've managed to get hold of a replacement headlight, but I'm struggling with a wing and bumper. I don't want to go through insurance as they'll just write the car off, and I'll lose my NCD. Any chance someone out there has a passenger side wing and a front bumper for a mk1 75 in jbh Wedgewood blue going cheap? It would be very appreciated if anyone can help!

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AndyN01 This is my second home Toyota RAV4 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Tamworth Posts: 3,076 Thanks: 2,478 Thanked 1,579 Times in 968 Posts	So.... Being involved in a collision which causes damage and loss without any insurance or road tax (or whatever it's called!) apparently isn't a matter for the Police. So no laws have been broken then? These "offenses" do not appear in Court for a Judge to consider if any law has been broken any the appropriate punishment? Erm...... Andy. __________________ Andy. http://www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk/ Last edited by AndyN01; 1st July 2018 at 19:25..

1st July 2018, 18:50	#3
Dansrockin Posted a thing or two MG ZT number 1 of 25 celestial!! Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Banbury Posts: 1,967 Thanks: 208 Thanked 242 Times in 166 Posts	Thanks Dave! I think I've managed to sort a bumper, but if it falls through I'll go for that if it's still available

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STUBIE This is my second home Back in a Rover Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Peterborough Posts: 4,926 Thanks: 131 Thanked 357 Times in 261 Posts	Is it not a crime to drive on a road without MOT and insurance? The Policing of our land these days is ridiculous. I'm sure if it was a anyone else they'd be right round. Stubs

1st July 2018, 19:33	#6
Dansrockin Posted a thing or two MG ZT number 1 of 25 celestial!! Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Banbury Posts: 1,967 Thanks: 208 Thanked 242 Times in 166 Posts	Exactly, if it was me or you, or anyone else that has a normal way of life, we'd be caught straight away and read the riot act. These bar stewards do what they want and couldn't care less who they hurt in the process and know that nothing can be done. In a completely unrelated incident, my step daughter and her friend were walking through the park this afternoon when 2 of these travellers kids were hiding in bushes with an air gun, they shot at my daughter and her friend! Luckily no injuries, two pellets hit her backpack, but we reported it to the police, and we're still waiting to see someone 5 hours later! Apparently the police went to the site earlier but I can't see anything being done.