End of life for cars.

[Bogbrush82]

Granted 100k is quite high for a 62 plate, however that suggests a motorway mileage car, so wear and tear should be no different to a lower mile town car surely?

[timon]

Originally Posted by Dallas

French cars have always depreciated in value quickly, until French cars can improve their perception of quality, this will always continue.

Its the same reason to why so many here say they would never own a 'eurobox', many reasons are given and this will always continue until the perception has changed.

You certainly don't see many of the older French cars about these days, they seem to be the first to leave the UK roads after 8+ years, the quality and value just isn't there.

What about the Peugeot 206? They're everywhere.

[MSS]

Originally Posted by Bogbrush82

Granted 100k is quite high for a 62 plate, however that suggests a motorway mileage car, so wear and tear should be no different to a lower mile town car surely?

Or a woman driver who liked shopping and went out on short shopping trips a lot!

[Dallas]

Originally Posted by timon

What about the Peugeot 206? They're everywhere.

Nope! I've not seen any of those, not for a long time, not even the original Renault Clio.

[macafee2]

I've never had a new car, never owned a car with 100,000 miles on the clock but will soon. Some people want a new car, a car never owned by anyone else. That's not where I want my money to go but I don't mind others buying new.
The depreciation new car suffer is amazing but I guess the owners don't "care" as they are probably aware of depreciation when they bought the car.

I think cars are better today then in the 70's and 80's and will last better.

macafee2

[HarryM1BYT]

Originally Posted by macafee2

I've never had a new car, never owned a car with 100,000 miles on the clock but will soon. Some people want a new car, a car never owned by anyone else. That's not where I want my money to go but I don't mind others buying new.
The depreciation new car suffer is amazing but I guess the owners don't "care" as they are probably aware of depreciation when they bought the car.

I think cars are better today then in the 70's and 80's and will last better.

macafee2

They last much longer, they rust much less, they are much more reliable - but when they go wrong, they are much harder to fix.



Some people buy new with the intention of keeping for many years to get their value out of it, others just buy new just because they like to have the latest and most up to date car available - an awfully expensive way and probably the best used cars to buy when the owner becomes bored with it.

[respace]

Lots of differing issues within the thread, 100k is not the end of the road for cars these days, quite often it has been the start of my ownership, back in the 70s many didn't make it that far.
I've bought several with over 100k on the clock and gone on to 400k with some, what is limiting their life span is the complicated electronics on them which are impossible for the layman to fix. I have a VW T5 van which is far more sophisticated than my T4 that preceded it but far more difficult/ expensive to fix.I now do about average mileage in all my (4) vehicles, 12 mths MOT and service on the van cost £1500 this year, the same on the Rover was £255!

[Comfortably Numb]

Originally Posted by marinabrian

Andrew, I've pulled the fuel figures for my own hack 214, with 398,430 miles on the clock.......................................



Are you sitting down?

£32873 over the space of ten years of service, however by the same token, as I was charging my business mileage out at 40 pence per mile...................

The total gross income over ten years of that particular vehicle...............

£1484084

So I think it's fair to say, the car paid for itself quite well don't you agree?



Brian

I wish I could still deduct 40p a mile from my taxable income as an agency worker. Some weeks I paid no tax. Now I can only claim it for travelling between places of work, not home to work, which is often 50miles or more. Last year's fuel costs in the Rover was around £2,800 out of my taxed income so around £3,700 out of gross. Still, for London commuters, what does a rail card cost? Shouldn't grumble, should I, travelling, in total comfort where I want, when I want, never had to suffer a replacement bus service? Perhaps I'm feeling more positive about the Rover now I've got the gearbox back in. Perhaps I should reserve final judgement when it's all back together and I've driven it!

[Mike Noc]

It is 40p only for the first 10k miles though, after that it drops to 25p per mile. I used to do over 30k miles a year on business.

For me it makes more sense to run my own car than a company one - the days of that being worthwhile are long gone.

[SCP440]

Originally Posted by respace

what is limiting their life span is the complicated electronics on them which are impossible for the layman to fix.

So true, I was speaking to an owner of a fleet of small French vans that he lets his employees use. All of them bar one that have been scrapped is because of Electronic issue's. The main problem he was telling me is the ECU and body control is all in one unit and when it goes wrong the only way to get it going is to replace everything on the car with a matched set as all the electronics are married together and once married at the factory cannot be divorced. A new virgin unit from Citroen is nearly £1500 and £400 to fit and program it by the dealer. Even the wiper motor and clock are married to the ECU

He reckons they are programmed to fail at about 120k miles because all of the ones he has scrapped seem to have that mileage on them.