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Old 2nd February 2021, 13:52   #1
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Default Are landlords to be forced to accept pets

I get the feeling Landlords could be forced to accept pets into the properties they rent out.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/n...l-behaved-pets

Although the landlord can object to the pet, the web site does not make it clear who decides if the request for a pet or the refusal is appropriate. What could be guidance now could become law in the future!

I wonder if any landlord will decide to stop renting particularly if they are renting their house out while thy are abroad or just use a non recommended tenancy agreement.

If the government wants tenants to be able to take a pet into rented accommodation, then build council houses and the tenets can rent those.
Not every landlord is a landlord for financial gain.

Personally I think it is outrageous that a landlord can be forced to have such a rule forced on them as the web page says only 7% of private landlords advertise pet friendly properties. That means 93%, by far the majority could be forced, that does not seem democratic

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Old 2nd February 2021, 14:43   #2
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It should be the default condition that Landlord has the final say on pets allowed or not.

How can anyone judge if a bet is well behaved? The Owner may well say it is, but like it or not pets do have smell about them. The owner will be nose blind to such whereas an outsider would notice it. That also ignores scratch marks and carpet distruction.
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Old 2nd February 2021, 15:28   #3
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.......How can anyone judge if a bet is well behaved?.....
I suppose it depends whether you win or lose.
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Old 2nd February 2021, 17:23   #4
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You were happy to have pets so no problem, this "recommendation" would not effect you but what if you did not want pets in the house? Also, and no offence meant, I assume you did not pay for the MIL's house, in many cases the landlord has paid for the house and take on the financial burden and stress of the purchase. There are of course accidental landlords, inheritance as in your case or in my daughters case, had her own home but moved in with her boyfriend married him.

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It is madness that decent people cannot get a mortgage but can rent where the repayment is more but is it the deposit that trips them up? Landlords can spend thousands preparing the property for rental or year on year upgrading the property.
Landlords could also be on fixed term fixed interest rates and so the repayments remain the same.

I cannot agree that tenants should have the right to have pets. Whilst the majority of tenants pay their rent and therefore the landlord can pay the mortgage and have good credit we have to consider those landlords that are owned rent and could lose the house, the eviction process can take ages. We also have to consider why the need for private rental properties. Right to buy put a lot of council houses into the private sector. The very houses needed for those that found themselves in trouble, on low pay etc were sold off.

Whilst security of tenure is good in principle it is a difficult one. Whilst tenants should expect the lease to be renewed they should also realise that the tenancy agreement is for a fix term and at the end of the term the landlord may not want to renew the agreement. This can be a difficult pill to swallow for the tenant that has put a lot of money making the rental property nice.


I think my train of thought focuses on "problem" tenants. In some areas I don't know if it is the same country wide but the council charges the landlord the best part of £1,000 to have a licence to rent a property but the landlord gets no service from the council. I don't know if that £1,000 is per property.

However, thank goodness for rental properties, my sister could not get and does not want a mortgage due to her health. If she cannot work and has not worked much due to shielding the council pick up the rent which is a generously low rent.


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Er....

I don't get this at all.

If I own a property that I wish to rent (I don't) what on earth does it have to do with anyone whether I accept tenants with pets, or not?

I accept that there may be certain folks I cannot just refuse point blank because of race/disability discrimination etc. but pets???

What am I missing?
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Er....

I don't get this at all.

If I own a property that I wish to rent (I don't) what on earth does it have to do with anyone whether I accept tenants with pets, or not?

I accept that there may be certain folks I cannot just refuse point blank because of race/disability discrimination etc. but pets???

What am I missing?
some people think it unfair that landlords don't allow pets

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I get the feeling Landlords could be forced to accept pets into the properties they rent out.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/n...l-behaved-pets

Although the landlord can object to the pet, the web site does not make it clear who decides if the request for a pet or the refusal is appropriate. What could be guidance now could become law in the future!

I wonder if any landlord will decide to stop renting particularly if they are renting their house out while thy are abroad or just use a non recommended tenancy agreement.

If the government wants tenants to be able to take a pet into rented accommodation, then build council houses and the tenets can rent those.
Not every landlord is a landlord for financial gain.

Personally I think it is outrageous that a landlord can be forced to have such a rule forced on them as the web page says only 7% of private landlords advertise pet friendly properties. That means 93%, by far the majority could be forced, that does not seem democratic

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Did you not read the full article?
This is a new version of the model tenancy agreement. I don't know if Landlords are forced to use it or not, or if it sets out minimum legal requirements. But using it makes many things easier as it's a well established and understood document. Landlords won't be 'forced' to accept pets at all. But if using this agreement can't blanket ban pets. Objections will need to be specific to the situation. Tenants will continue to be responsible for any damage to their rented accomadation the same as they ever were. (however it is caused, and whatever the nature of the damage by children, pets, themselves whatever).


It's about time as well that landlords were given the nudge to give more consideration to pets rather than just following the majority of the herd and taking the simplest option of a blanket ban.
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Old 4th February 2021, 16:04   #9
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Did you not read the full article?
This is a new version of the model tenancy agreement. I don't know if Landlords are forced to use it or not, or if it sets out minimum legal requirements. But using it makes many things easier as it's a well established and understood document. Landlords won't be 'forced' to accept pets at all. But if using this agreement can't blanket ban pets. Objections will need to be specific to the situation. Tenants will continue to be responsible for any damage to their rented accomadation the same as they ever were. (however it is caused, and whatever the nature of the damage by children, pets, themselves whatever).


It's about time as well that landlords were given the nudge to give more consideration to pets rather than just following the majority of the herd and taking the simplest option of a blanket ban.
Which part do you think I may not have read? Yes I did read it. What was unclear in the previous tenancy document? At the moment it is an advisory document but is it the thin edge of the wedge? Who decides if the landlords objection to a pet is reasonable?
What makes you think that landlords do not just make their own decision not to allow pets but follow the herd?

A way round it I guess if a landlord does not want to allow pets, is for the landlord not to use this new document which really means the new document is just a pen pushing, perhaps even a point scoring exercise, useless waste of time.

If the council and government thinks pets should be allowed, let them supply the house.

I can see a problem if someone needs a rental property and already has a pet, to lose the pet would be very hard. Perhaps negotiation could take place to allow the pet but the decision should be the landlords

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Lots of pets are well behaved and house trained,that more than could be said of some articles who call themselves human beings.
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