Covid Concern for Silverstne

planenut · 18th July 2021, 07:50

At the risk of someone making comments which cause a dispute and therefore get the thread cancelled, here I go.

Silverstone may host up to 140,000 visitors, oh, add the teams, hospitality, security, support and fence hoppers, that's a lot of people crammed together trusting each other.

Yes, they "have to prove they have negative tested",but you only have to see that either they produce a printed proof or a picture on their phone, which in reality proves nothing. Trust is paramount, but this does involve the British public.

I did not want such an event cancelled, it's important to move on by adaptation to the virus. I really hope that the outcome is successful in respect of Covid.

The weather will cause problems and the support services will have to deal with those, good luck to them.

macafee2 · 20th July 2021, 08:58

Only thing I've herd in the news was Hamilton "taking out" Max Verstappen.
Max was really travelling when he hit the tyre wall and came to a "sudden" stop.

Seen video clips and I'm not sure if it was just an accident but an enquiry held Hamilton at fault.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...OWVYU2lKg.html

macafee2

planenut · 20th July 2021, 09:50

I saw it and think anybody else, it would be termed as a racing incident. It was a poor bit of desperate driving on Hamilton's part, though Verstappen did turn in.

wraymond · 20th July 2021, 10:30

Agreed. Not being a particular fan of LH but enjoying the whole thing, I saw it as a racing incident made worse by a refusal to give way in dangerous positions. Verstappen was understandably desperate to keep LH behind him and I'm afraid the competitive spirit combined with youthful exuberance/blood rush overcame him.

At a notorious bend (Copse) LH was taking the inside and his nose and Left front wheel were alongside the middle of the other car. That very fact makes the point, it is then within rules to take precedence and overtake. Something which the team leader of Red Bull conveniently omitted to acknowledge.

Verstappen refused to let it happen, turned even further in, in an effort to get LH to back off, which caused the contact. He lost traction which caused him to spin and lose his Left rear tyre with front wheels on the opposite lock. That lost all braking effect and only the barrier stopped him. If it had been anyone other than Verstappen it would probably not have happened. There is no history to claim differently about LH, he has an unusually good record.

What sickens is the reaction afterwards by the usual rabble online. Anywhere else would be followed by arrests for 'hate crime'. These people are identifiable given the will to so do, and severe penalties could be levied. It's time the keyboard cowards were given a seeing to.

BRG75 · 20th July 2021, 11:31

I totally agree with Raymond (post 4)

His description tallies with what I said to Jan, as we watched it live, on TV.

I would certainly say first and foremost, a racing incident.

If blame has to be apportioned, I will go 90% MV, 10% LH

Regards

Mike

18th July 2021, 07:50	#1
planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,954 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	Covid Concern for Silverstne At the risk of someone making comments which cause a dispute and therefore get the thread cancelled, here I go. Silverstone may host up to 140,000 visitors, oh, add the teams, hospitality, security, support and fence hoppers, that's a lot of people crammed together trusting each other. Yes, they "have to prove they have negative tested",but you only have to see that either they produce a printed proof or a picture on their phone, which in reality proves nothing. Trust is paramount, but this does involve the British public. I did not want such an event cancelled, it's important to move on by adaptation to the virus. I really hope that the outcome is successful in respect of Covid. The weather will cause problems and the support services will have to deal with those, good luck to them.

20th July 2021, 10:30	#4
wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,193 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	Agreed. Not being a particular fan of LH but enjoying the whole thing, I saw it as a racing incident made worse by a refusal to give way in dangerous positions. Verstappen was understandably desperate to keep LH behind him and I'm afraid the competitive spirit combined with youthful exuberance/blood rush overcame him. At a notorious bend (Copse) LH was taking the inside and his nose and Left front wheel were alongside the middle of the other car. That very fact makes the point, it is then within rules to take precedence and overtake. Something which the team leader of Red Bull conveniently omitted to acknowledge. Verstappen refused to let it happen, turned even further in, in an effort to get LH to back off, which caused the contact. He lost traction which caused him to spin and lose his Left rear tyre with front wheels on the opposite lock. That lost all braking effect and only the barrier stopped him. If it had been anyone other than Verstappen it would probably not have happened. There is no history to claim differently about LH, he has an unusually good record. What sickens is the reaction afterwards by the usual rabble online. Anywhere else would be followed by arrests for 'hate crime'. These people are identifiable given the will to so do, and severe penalties could be levied. It's time the keyboard cowards were given a seeing to. __________________ member no. 235

20th July 2021, 11:31	#5
BRG75 Gets stuck in Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer, 9th & 10th Rovers Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Sevenoaks Posts: 975 Thanks: 670 Thanked 290 Times in 195 Posts	I totally agree with Raymond (post 4) His description tallies with what I said to Jan, as we watched it live, on TV. I would certainly say first and foremost, a racing incident. If blame has to be apportioned, I will go 90% MV, 10% LH Regards Mike __________________ Presently 2004 75 CDTi auto Connoisseur Tourer - White Gold 2001 75 2.5 auto Connoisseur Saloon - White Gold Previously 2002 75 1.8 auto Club SE, 2000 75 1.8 auto Classic SE (Company Car) 1997 420 (Company Car) 1996 216 cabriolet, 198? 213 VDP 1986 SD1 V8 VDP, 1968 2000TC, 1966 2000.

20th July 2021, 08:58	#2
macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,926 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	Only thing I've herd in the news was Hamilton "taking out" Max Verstappen. Max was really travelling when he hit the tyre wall and came to a "sudden" stop. Seen video clips and I'm not sure if it was just an accident but an enquiry held Hamilton at fault. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...OWVYU2lKg.html macafee2

20th July 2021, 09:50	#3
planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,954 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	I saw it and think anybody else, it would be termed as a racing incident. It was a poor bit of desperate driving on Hamilton's part, though Verstappen did turn in.