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Old 3rd August 2021, 08:05   #11
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As the patio needs to be removed and lowered we may find the incoming main. Not sure what work I would do with it, may be run a new pipe into the house.
I am afraid we need to spend more money and time sorting things out then we, I, expected.

I dont fancy having to run out the the meter in the dead of night when the wind is blowing a gale and the rain is beating down to turn the water off should we need to.

In my previous houses we knew they were wrecks when we got them so poor plumbing, electrics etc were no issue but this was supposed to be the previous owners home for life and work done by a professional. I could do better.


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Old 3rd August 2021, 09:03   #12
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there should be a valve next to the meter, in the same access point. If you are having to do some work, it might be opportune to place a gate valve on the single pipe prior to where they have been divided below those service valves.
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Did you check the title deeds??
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It is not just the water mains that you might encounter when lowering a patio. At the rear of our house all of the drainage and sewage pipes are so close to the surface that they prevent the patio from being lowered any further. As such the damp proof course for the house is only ~ 1.5 bricks above the patio as opposed to the standard of at least 2 bricks. It is a pre-war semi which I suspect was built like this as there is no evidence of the house ever subsiding. Given that utility pipes and cables are not always installed to regulatory minimum depths I would be very wary of using a sledge hammer to break up any hard surface close to the house. Could well pay to hire or acquire a concrete breaker to hopefully avoid percussion damage to a buried pipe.

Ground penetrating radar came to mind regards pipe detection then my mind immediately wandered off to The Falkland Islands. I know that the argies dumped a huge amount of mines there in areas which were fenced off in 1983 and left uncleared as it was felt that the risks in clearing them were not worth the benefit. Plastic mines were a particular problem re detecting them and the technology available then was not ... Actually I think that I'd better stop before someone asks for the thread to be closed. Lol.
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Old 3rd August 2021, 12:30   #15
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Did you check the title deeds??
no, I'm sure we can though. What are we looking for, the route of the water main?

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It is not just the water mains that you might encounter when lowering a patio. At the rear of our house all of the drainage and sewage pipes are so close to the surface that they prevent the patio from being lowered any further. As such the damp proof course for the house is only ~ 1.5 bricks above the patio as opposed to the standard of at least 2 bricks. It is a pre-war semi which I suspect was built like this as there is no evidence of the house ever subsiding. Given that utility pipes and cables are not always installed to regulatory minimum depths I would be very wary of using a sledge hammer to break up any hard surface close to the house. Could well pay to hire or acquire a concrete breaker to hopefully avoid percussion damage to a buried pipe.

Ground penetrating radar came to mind regards pipe detection then my mind immediately wandered off to The Falkland Islands. I know that the argies dumped a huge amount of mines there in areas which were fenced off in 1983 and left uncleared as it was felt that the risks in clearing them were not worth the benefit. Plastic mines were a particular problem re detecting them and the technology available then was not ... Actually I think that I'd better stop before someone asks for the thread to be closed. Lol.

I am expecting to have to replace and lower piping to/from heat source pumps. It is as if they were laid and the path laid over the top

Even if we can lower the patio at one end that is better then nothing

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Old 3rd August 2021, 12:38   #17
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Why lol? It actually works and it shocked me when I tried it over a water pipe they came together
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no, I'm sure we can though. What are we looking for, the route of the water main?

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The route of the main can be traced by the water in it. This works even with a plastic pipe. Most builders will have the simple kit needed.



PS. That in line valve can also serve as a stopcock. Make sure it's easy to get at, that's all. Can be fitted under your kitchen sink to save dashing out in the road on a dark winters night to switch off the mains supply to the house.
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Old 3rd August 2021, 16:27   #19
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Why lol? It actually works and it shocked me when I tried it over a water pipe they came together
then I take it back and appologise

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then I take it back and appologise

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Not a problem as I was actually sceptical too until a friend gave me a loan of a pair and when I walked over where a water pipe was they swung together and then apart again as you walked away from it
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