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Old 11th November 2021, 17:40   #1
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The very people that worked through out covid in care homes can no longer work in care homes if not double covid jabbed.

How strange that last and this year they could work in care homes without being double jabbed they cant now.

I wonder how the unfair dismissal cases will pan out. If staff go to the High Court I can see them winning, I hope they win.

I am not sure how being double jabbed will make it safer for others.

I think everyone should be double jabbed, I believe everyone has the right to decide if to be jabbed or not.

A business short of staff is about to be even shorter.

What a disgusting situation.

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Old 11th November 2021, 17:55   #2
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However if I, or a relative was in a care home I would wish to only be supported by a double jabbed staff member. My choice of course.
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Old 11th November 2021, 18:17   #3
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However if I, or a relative was in a care home I would wish to only be supported by a double jabbed staff member. My choice of course.
That is where a lot of the problems come from...

Imagine this, let's call them Mary and Alice, they work in the same care home as nurses.
Mary has woken up with symptoms of Covid, is staying home and has booked a PCR test.

Alice has had two jabs and has Covid but doesn't know she has, she's going to be tending to many elderly people over the coming days.

Do you see a problem here? The jabs stop nothing but severe illness for the jabbed, and that's not 100% certain. Your choice of wanting only vaccinated staff will not lessen or remove any risk.
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Old 14th November 2021, 11:40   #4
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That is where a lot of the problems come from...

Imagine this, let's call them Mary and Alice, they work in the same care home as nurses.
Mary has woken up with symptoms of Covid, is staying home and has booked a PCR test.

Alice has had two jabs and has Covid but doesn't know she has, she's going to be tending to many elderly people over the coming days.

Do you see a problem here? The jabs stop nothing but severe illness for the jabbed, and that's not 100% certain. Your choice of wanting only vaccinated staff will not lessen or remove any risk.

They suggest it helps to reduce the chances of passing covid on - that is good enough for me. I would want to be cared for by someone who had not been jabbed.
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They suggest it helps to reduce the chances of passing covid on - that is good enough for me. I would want to be cared for by someone who had not been jabbed.
Is there a 'not' missing from the second sentence?

The obvious benefit of care-home workers being vaccinated is that they are less likely to fall ill with Covid, and therefore they will be more likely to be able to work. This seems worthwhile to me! Conversely, running the risk of losing staff from the care sector when it's already short of manpower doesn't make much sense, especially as this will likely put more pressure on the NHS.

There are several precedents for new vaccinations/inoculations to be mandated after an individual has commenced work in a given trade or profession. The obvious one is HM Forces, but I suspect there are others.
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Old 18th November 2021, 08:22   #6
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Is there a 'not' missing from the second sentence?

The obvious benefit of care-home workers being vaccinated is that they are less likely to fall ill with Covid, and therefore they will be more likely to be able to work. This seems worthwhile to me! Conversely, running the risk of losing staff from the care sector when it's already short of manpower doesn't make much sense, especially as this will likely put more pressure on the NHS.

There are several precedents for new vaccinations/inoculations to be mandated after an individual has commenced work in a given trade or profession. The obvious one is HM Forces, but I suspect there are others.
Taking the HM Forces. What are the rules upon joining about vaccination? Is vaccination for existing and new viruses compulsory? I dont think it was a condition of employment for Care home workers to be vaccinated for existing and new viruses and this is a massive difference between the two if it is compulsory for the forces to be vaccinated and I think therefore unrealistic to compare the two.

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Is there a 'not' missing from the second sentence?

No a 'not' was not intended. The stats clearly show you are less likely to catch covid and less likely to pass it on. Many jobs, quite reasonably have conditions attached to getting the job, either in qualifications or abilities, which if you lack them you cannot take on the job. Accepting the jab is one such reasonable requirement for this particular job.
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Unfortunately for them,in the interests of residents safety it has become a requirement for employee's to be vaccinated in that profession.They do have a very valid point though that nobody can be certain as to what if any the long term side effects will be.All those who have been jabbed have taken a leap of faith to some extent.They will have to do like many others in various career's who find themselves unemployed,and retrain for something else.
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Unfortunately for them,in the interests of residents safety it has become a requirement for employee's to be vaccinated in that profession.They do have a very valid point though that nobody can be certain as to what if any the long term side effects will be.All those who have been jabbed have taken a leap of faith to some extent.They will have to do like many others in various career's who find themselves unemployed,and retrain for something else.
The issues surrounding an unlawful mandate such as this are many, the legal cases will be interesting to say the least. There are issues not even considered by the government and Mr peanut head Javid as yet, care homes will lose staff and be faced with critical staffing issues where patients will be sent to hospitals for care, that will clog up a troubled NHS over the cold months. The backlog won't clear before frontline staff are forced out in the Spring and the NHS might as well give up at that point. What's it all about, some say safety but I beg to differ on that, a relentless system of jab after jab will follow and that's going to cause mental distress for many staff on the frontline `I'm sorry but your fifth jab has run its course and, you'll need a sixth jab or lose your job` Is that where this is heading because it's going to destroy the NHS and care system, the travel industry is another but, you'll still be able to go to a football match with 40,000 others tightly packed in.
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We will be next on the list, I make healthcare products I'm sure they will try and push everyone to have the vaccines by these stealthy methods.
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