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vitesse · 22nd December 2020, 15:16

Löfven is a politician with downward ratings and so must be seen to be taking action, though can’t complete with Boris’ frequent changes. Change of heart? - more like impulsive behaviour as no-one has specified when these peak times of public transport occur (to be announced sometime in January). Bus companies are supposed to supply face masks to those without one, but the drivers have no legal right to refuse transportation. The drivers are cocooned up front, the front doors are sealed, no bus passes checked, so they can’t hand any masks out - in short, a poorly thought out decision by Löfven which leaves everyone scrambling to make sense of his haste.

Very similar to Jimmie Åkesson, leader of the right wing Sweden Democrats and the only party to advocate the use of face masks - just one tiny problem: he’s yet to be seen wearing one.

Lovel · 22nd December 2020, 17:12

Do you believe that if we get it down to zero that the virus will never return? The vaccine is claiming 95% effective = approx 2.75mn folk it’s not going to work for not accounting for future mutations. It really is like trying to stop the tide coming in

BigRuss · 23rd December 2020, 12:59

Think the powers that be need to look at the many multi national studies into Ivermectin for treatment and prevention of the Virus.

Studies have found that it prevents contracting the disease and can significantly reduce the effects of the virus in those already infected.
It's cheap effective and known to be safe.

Russ

Lovel · 23rd December 2020, 13:13

At the same time the adults have also buried their head in the sand of that beach, truly concerning to level headed beings

COLVERT · 23rd December 2020, 21:38

I've had a message each day for the last three days on my English mobile.----Come to the medical centre, your vaccine is ready for you.

Unfortunately I'm in France.-----

planenut · 5th January 2021, 06:21

Well, we did see this coming. A friend of mine picked up the virus with one trip to Aldi, so it seems. Luckily a mild dose compared to many. A former work colleague has contracted it but after being rather blase about precautions. Then, because she was fed up, went back to work though felt exhausted; luckily I don't have to see her.

This will go now to beyond Easter, stay safe. For those who think it b/s, pop into A & E.

kaiser · 5th January 2021, 07:00

It is very easy.
Look at total number of people dying.
You can do it here:
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps
This is for week 52, so the data is almost up to date.
Go to the graph for UK, and you can clearly see that the mortality at the moment is normal, and far below what it was in say same period 2018.
This is for week 52, so the data is almost up to date.

These figures include all people dying from all causes! So you really can't fiddle much - or at all.

planenut · 5th January 2021, 07:30

The restrictions placed on us all has greatly reduced the opportunity to risk health, be it through individual activity or activities that affect others. One only has to think of how many are affected by everybody driving vehicles about; reduced stress, reduced accidents. The only increase apart from the virus, must be those affected by abuse and mental stress, there are not many who could put up with me for every minute of the day, and some would have "been at each others throats" before all this.

FLYING BANANA · 5th January 2021, 08:37

We have allowed this thread to continue, however if the playground antics continue it will get closed. There are experts and ‘experts’ in all walks of life.
Facts that you can believe and facts you can ignore.

We have members who work in the NHS and private care plus those that work in the care industry.

At the end of the day we are a car club.

kaiser · 5th January 2021, 08:47

It is of no use arguing with you. Your communist training of selecting something arbitrary and arguing based on that is not something I would even dream of going into.
I stated two things!

1. There is no excessive mortality at the moment based on figures from week 52.
2. the figures in 2018 during the same time were higher.

Both can be read from this graph.

And I will leave it at that.

But maybe pointing out facts is too much?

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5th January 2021, 07:00	#637
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	It is very easy. Look at total number of people dying. You can do it here: https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps This is for week 52, so the data is almost up to date. Go to the graph for UK, and you can clearly see that the mortality at the moment is normal, and far below what it was in say same period 2018. This is for week 52, so the data is almost up to date. These figures include all people dying from all causes! So you really can't fiddle much - or at all. __________________ Worth his V8 in gold

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5th January 2021, 08:47	#640
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	It is of no use arguing with you. Your communist training of selecting something arbitrary and arguing based on that is not something I would even dream of going into. I stated two things! 1. There is no excessive mortality at the moment based on figures from week 52. 2. the figures in 2018 during the same time were higher. Both can be read from this graph. And I will leave it at that. But maybe pointing out facts is too much? __________________ Worth his V8 in gold

22nd December 2020, 15:16	#631
vitesse I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Gävle Posts: 2,528 Thanks: 395 Thanked 823 Times in 652 Posts	Löfven is a politician with downward ratings and so must be seen to be taking action, though can’t complete with Boris’ frequent changes. Change of heart? - more like impulsive behaviour as no-one has specified when these peak times of public transport occur (to be announced sometime in January). Bus companies are supposed to supply face masks to those without one, but the drivers have no legal right to refuse transportation. The drivers are cocooned up front, the front doors are sealed, no bus passes checked, so they can’t hand any masks out - in short, a poorly thought out decision by Löfven which leaves everyone scrambling to make sense of his haste. Very similar to Jimmie Åkesson, leader of the right wing Sweden Democrats and the only party to advocate the use of face masks - just one tiny problem: he’s yet to be seen wearing one.

22nd December 2020, 17:12	#632
Lovel I really should get out more....... P6B, L550, Imp, F56, Commando Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 2,886 Thanks: 352 Thanked 677 Times in 440 Posts	Do you believe that if we get it down to zero that the virus will never return? The vaccine is claiming 95% effective = approx 2.75mn folk it’s not going to work for not accounting for future mutations. It really is like trying to stop the tide coming in

23rd December 2020, 13:13	#634
Lovel I really should get out more....... P6B, L550, Imp, F56, Commando Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 2,886 Thanks: 352 Thanked 677 Times in 440 Posts	At the same time the adults have also buried their head in the sand of that beach, truly concerning to level headed beings

23rd December 2020, 21:38	#635
COLVERT This is my second home R75 Saloon. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: France/or Devon. Posts: 14,003 Thanks: 3,851 Thanked 2,167 Times in 1,816 Posts	I've had a message each day for the last three days on my English mobile.----Come to the medical centre, your vaccine is ready for you. Unfortunately I'm in France.-----

5th January 2021, 06:21	#636
planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,951 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	Well, we did see this coming. A friend of mine picked up the virus with one trip to Aldi, so it seems. Luckily a mild dose compared to many. A former work colleague has contracted it but after being rather blase about precautions. Then, because she was fed up, went back to work though felt exhausted; luckily I don't have to see her. This will go now to beyond Easter, stay safe. For those who think it b/s, pop into A & E.

5th January 2021, 07:30	#638
planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,951 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	The restrictions placed on us all has greatly reduced the opportunity to risk health, be it through individual activity or activities that affect others. One only has to think of how many are affected by everybody driving vehicles about; reduced stress, reduced accidents. The only increase apart from the virus, must be those affected by abuse and mental stress, there are not many who could put up with me for every minute of the day, and some would have "been at each others throats" before all this.