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Old 12th March 2015, 19:36   #11
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I am about to attempt my first oil change since acquiring my car last Sept I have covered 6k Miles and the oil is as black as the Ace of spades! (I do mostly motorway mileage and rarely exceed 2k RPM ( And cruise happily at 70 MPH! my car has FSH from new and as far as I can see all has been done properly inThe past.

I have collected all that I need : Oil :Mobil 10/40, Slick 50 (used it in 17 cars over 30 years!), Oil Filter, 36 mm low profile socket, fuel filter, air filter, a sealy vac extractor , this is because like so many other members I would prefer to do it this way as I do not want to have to invest in a new trolley jack or heavy duty axle stands and have to grovel around trying to remove the engine tray. I have watched the you tube video of the american Topsider in use and I recommend every member that does not have access to a proper lift or pit to view this as This method just looks the buisiness , if the topsider was available in this country I would have surely bought one but imported from the US it would cost nearly £100.

When it's all done I'll report back!! :
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Old 12th March 2015, 19:36   #12
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As always an excellent how to, however I prefer a Pela-type of system works a treat, no mess no undertrays, every drop extracted, do it twice a year, with good quality oil/filter.
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Or save yourself a lot of hassle and use a Pela pump.

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I am about to attempt my first oil change since acquiring my car last Sept I have covered 6k Miles and the oil is as black as the Ace of spades! (I do mostly motorway mileage and rarely exceed 2k RPM ( And cruise happily at 70 MPH! my car has FSH from new and as far as I can see all has been done properly In The past.

I have collected all that I need : Oil :Mobil 10/40, Slick 50 (used it in 17 cars over 30 years!), Oil Filter, 36 mm low profile socket, fuel filter, air filter, a sealy vac extractor , this is because like so many other members I would prefer to do it this way as I do not want to have to invest in a new trolley jack or heavy duty axle stands and have to grovel around trying to remove the engine tray. I have watched the you tube video of the american Topsider in use and I recommend every member that does not have access to a proper lift or pit to view this as This method just looks the buisiness , if the topsider was available in this country I would have surely bought one but imported from the US it would cost nearly £100.
Hi Joe & Keith.
Nice bits of kit but it will not do a visual check of other parts under the car for you ie, hoses, lower engine mounts, lower wish bone bushes, turbo hose and leaking from the compressor and such so the old way is for me, Good luck with the service.
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Old 12th March 2015, 21:50   #14
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Excellent how-to as always

Worth highlighting that when fitting the new large O ring onto the oil filter housing, it doesn't go in the top groove as you might think, but in the second groove down (as seen in fig 32).

I cut a hole in my undertray to allow access to the sump plug. Fortunately there were a few drips to mark where to cut! First time I changed the oil it took me longer to get the undertray back on than the rest of the job combined. Now changing the oil is so quick it almost doesn't feel like a 'proper' job anymore!

As Arctic says, still important to get the undertray off regularly to have a proper look around. Just nice not to have to when changing the oil if I know all's well elsewhere.
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Old 12th March 2015, 22:06   #15
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Filters gradually become More efficient as they age and the holes in the filter medium slowly get Smaller.---
Surely if that were the case we would never need to change an oil filter - ever, there is a reason Royal Mail always fit an extra oil filter to their diesel trucks, it keeps the oil clean and prevents long term problems, it was a practice I adopted when running my wagons also, I would not take a chance on letting a filter get clogged, twice as often is always better than twice as long.
When I drain oil from a diesel I still want to see a glimmer of gold colour and not just jet black, this works for me.
If it has worked for you then its great, just not for me.

Still a perfect how to for anyone.
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They should all be the same size unless someone as lost one and replaced it with a longer one, but you are correct, best to put either the same length or smaller bolts to top left of cover. 16mm would be best 20mm are fitted or should be.

Agreed Steve. The bolts on mine are all all the same size. But as there have been few reported cases of people puncturing through to the camshaft chamber due to having different length bolts and refitting a longer one in the top left hand position.... best to check.
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Agreed Steve. The bolts on mine are all all the same size. But as there have been few reported cases of people puncturing through to the camshaft chamber due to having different length bolts and refitting a longer one in the top left hand position.... best to check.
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Thread as been edited to let members know thank you for pointing it out cheers Steve
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Great post Steve, and timely too. With Easter approaching, maybe a few deals going on with the price of oil. Post will encourage the not so confident to tackle this very worthwhile task.
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Arctic, a quick question, I just re-read your how to and realized two things.
1, you have bolts holding your undertray on where as mine has those awkward large threaded screws, is that because yours is an earlier car(noticed the extra under bonnet pump on the picture) or because yours is a manual?. I didn't even know the undertrays were different on manuals and autos!!.
2, I just realized that I don't take off my engine cover to change my oil filter (silly me for not realizing earlier!!) I'm sure there is enough room to do it with the cover in situ. Doesn't detract from your excellent "how to" though. As mentioned this may encourage others to have a go, which in my opinion is worth it's weight in gold!! Thanks.
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Surely if that were the case we would never need to change an oil filter - ever, there is a reason Royal Mail always fit an extra oil filter to their diesel trucks, it keeps the oil clean and prevents long term problems, it was a practice I adopted when running my wagons also, I would not take a chance on letting a filter get clogged, twice as often is always better than twice as long.
When I drain oil from a diesel I still want to see a glimmer of gold colour and not just jet black, this works for me.
If it has worked for you then its great, just not for me.

Still a perfect how to for anyone.
Slight miss reading of my post. I didn't say Don't Change it. I merely said that throughout the course of its NORMAL life it slowly becomes more efficient.
You actually read something into my post that I didn't say.-

In your post you said yourself it was UN-Necessary which then begs the question------Why do it then ?????------Very odd.--
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