Clear coat issue

rovertone · 16th April 2024, 21:48

When prepping for Gaydon I noticed about 10 tiny light specs on my roof which looks like the clear coat is starting to lift. I have previously had a couple of spots on the windscreen pillar which i flatted and brushed over with lacquer which seems to have halted the deterioration.
To do this with so many little spots is likely to start to look messy, has anyone any experience of anything similar and is it feasible that the whole roof could be resprayed with new clear coat and thus save any paint colour deterioration.

I am particularly concerned as I spoke to a guy at the meet who used to work on paint rectification at Longbridge who told me that my colour, Mirage, is a very difficult colour to match. When cars of this colour were coming down the line everyone was on high alert not to cause any damage as the likelihood of rectifying any damage was low. This also confirms a post I read on FB a while back where it was stated that every Mirage leaving the factory was slightly different depending on the skill and method used by the particular sprayer.

This info will now make me feel even more uncomfortable when parking up at Tesco! Maybe this is true for other colours not just mine.
I intend to visit a couple of body shops to find out what could be done but meanwhile would welcome any feedback from members who have experienced similar.
Thanks Tony

ceedy · 17th April 2024, 09:57

I've had some success with re lacquer and a quick coat of blender a a re flat and polish.

FrattonEnder · 17th April 2024, 14:08

I've got a similar laquer peel issue on my Moonshine - the cost of paint, I've heard, is astronomical (pun intended!)

chicochapman · 17th April 2024, 16:12

You're not kidding! Typhoon IAB is £450 per litre!
Half a litre (min order) was enough for the roof.

Malc

rovertone · 17th April 2024, 16:27

I'm hoping a new clear coat will save the paint. My code is IAU and I was able to buy a rattle can which was not expensive which i use with a brush for stone chips.
I suppose in a worse case scenario and the roof had to be repainted a variation in shade would be less noticeable.

JerseySteve · 20th April 2024, 11:42

My Moonstone bonnet and roof looks like someone has been ice skating on them. Be interested to know if there is an easy way to just strip the clearcoat off without damaging the underlying paint so that a new clearcoat could be applied(?). I cleared a part of the roof with compound but it would take forever to do everything.

suzublu · 20th April 2024, 12:03

All top surfaces on mine had clearcoat issues, as you, loads of little scratches. Bit the bullet and resprayed. 😎 Wedgwood blue btw

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rovertone · 20th April 2024, 20:12

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Originally Posted by JerseySteve

My Moonstone bonnet and roof looks like someone has been ice skating on them. Be interested to know if there is an easy way to just strip the clearcoat off without damaging the underlying paint so that a new clearcoat could be applied(?). I cleared a part of the roof with compound but it would take forever to do everything.

Hope to visit a car body shop next week, I'll feedback what they say.

johnnyb44 · 20th April 2024, 23:52

Mines suffered quite badly to.
All the upward facing panels bonnet/roof/boot look like it's been painted with a yard brush..
The strange thing is though it's only visible when the sun shines on it.On a cloudy overcast day it's invisible to the eye.
I've taken my car to a number of paint specialists and after close inspection they've all said the clear coat is perfectly fine and that its the paint underneath it that's failed.
One person at a paint shop I visited just happened to work on the 75 product line back in its day said something very interesting.
He said they got alot of cars back to have paint correction due them getting damaged in transit to the showroom.The chains on the transporter trucks quite often came into contact with the top side of the cars resulting in damage.These cars were then sent back to the factory to get it sorted, and sadly not to a good standard resulting in it's failure many years later.

Les4048 · 21st April 2024, 05:41

I was told by a bodyshop coating with lacquer doesn’t work and in fact when I owned a 75 tourer I had the roof touched up and you could see it a mile off. Apparently the base coat is affected by sunlight and starts to change as soon as the lacquer lifts and deteriorates on a daily basis and only cure is repaint the panel

16th April 2024, 21:48	#1
rovertone Gets stuck in Rover 75 Conne SE Auto CDTi Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Redditch Posts: 670 Thanks: 185 Thanked 135 Times in 109 Posts	Clear coat issue When prepping for Gaydon I noticed about 10 tiny light specs on my roof which looks like the clear coat is starting to lift. I have previously had a couple of spots on the windscreen pillar which i flatted and brushed over with lacquer which seems to have halted the deterioration. To do this with so many little spots is likely to start to look messy, has anyone any experience of anything similar and is it feasible that the whole roof could be resprayed with new clear coat and thus save any paint colour deterioration. I am particularly concerned as I spoke to a guy at the meet who used to work on paint rectification at Longbridge who told me that my colour, Mirage, is a very difficult colour to match. When cars of this colour were coming down the line everyone was on high alert not to cause any damage as the likelihood of rectifying any damage was low. This also confirms a post I read on FB a while back where it was stated that every Mirage leaving the factory was slightly different depending on the skill and method used by the particular sprayer. This info will now make me feel even more uncomfortable when parking up at Tesco! Maybe this is true for other colours not just mine. I intend to visit a couple of body shops to find out what could be done but meanwhile would welcome any feedback from members who have experienced similar. Thanks Tony __________________ 2003 Mk 1 Connie SE CDTi Auto Monogram Mirage 2/Sandstone Leather 511th CDTi out of 4744 produced 9th in Mirage 2 out of 17 produced Also 2004 Rover 25 SXi CVT, 1999 Megane Cabriolet and still missing my 800 Fastback.

17th April 2024, 09:57	#2
ceedy This is my second home All Trophy Blue ,ZT260#50 , ZT CDTI Auto, ZR105+ and 1.8T Firefrost spoiling the Set . Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Nr Sherborne But in Somerset.. Posts: 6,077 Thanks: 916 Thanked 1,214 Times in 768 Posts	I've had some success with re lacquer and a quick coat of blender a a re flat and polish. __________________ The Three Bloo's Wifey's Zr105, MY CDTI & 260 #50 and Number One sons 1.8T in Firefrost When I were a lad Zero to 142 in 10.25 secs at the Pod on my Blown Norton. 210 Kart Champ in 70's

17th April 2024, 14:08	#3
FrattonEnder Avid contributor MG ZT Join Date: May 2020 Location: Gloucester Posts: 233 Thanks: 40 Thanked 47 Times in 28 Posts	I've got a similar laquer peel issue on my Moonshine - the cost of paint, I've heard, is astronomical (pun intended!) __________________ Serial Longbridge owner - Rover 213SE, Rover 216GTi, Rover 416 SLi, MG ZS 120+, MG ZT CDTi, MG ZT-T 190. Flies in the ointment - Ford Mondeo Mk4 CDTi Zetec, MINI Cooper 1.6

17th April 2024, 16:27	#5
rovertone Gets stuck in Rover 75 Conne SE Auto CDTi Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Redditch Posts: 670 Thanks: 185 Thanked 135 Times in 109 Posts	I'm hoping a new clear coat will save the paint. My code is IAU and I was able to buy a rattle can which was not expensive which i use with a brush for stone chips. I suppose in a worse case scenario and the roof had to be repainted a variation in shade would be less noticeable. __________________ 2003 Mk 1 Connie SE CDTi Auto Monogram Mirage 2/Sandstone Leather 511th CDTi out of 4744 produced 9th in Mirage 2 out of 17 produced Also 2004 Rover 25 SXi CVT, 1999 Megane Cabriolet and still missing my 800 Fastback.

20th April 2024, 23:52	#9
johnnyb44 I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: north wales Posts: 2,707 Thanks: 1,774 Thanked 902 Times in 507 Posts	Mines suffered quite badly to. All the upward facing panels bonnet/roof/boot look like it's been painted with a yard brush.. The strange thing is though it's only visible when the sun shines on it.On a cloudy overcast day it's invisible to the eye. I've taken my car to a number of paint specialists and after close inspection they've all said the clear coat is perfectly fine and that its the paint underneath it that's failed. One person at a paint shop I visited just happened to work on the 75 product line back in its day said something very interesting. He said they got alot of cars back to have paint correction due them getting damaged in transit to the showroom.The chains on the transporter trucks quite often came into contact with the top side of the cars resulting in damage.These cars were then sent back to the factory to get it sorted, and sadly not to a good standard resulting in it's failure many years later. __________________ Replaced pcv filter, springs, plenum spy hole mod,Bonnet cable divider mod. Wax oiled.Air con recharged. Auto box oil changed , Jules plenum guard fitted .Smoked wind deflectors fitted.S/S Compensator.Club Grill Badge kindly donated by Andyg2011..

17th April 2024, 16:12	#4
chicochapman Avid contributor MG ZT-T Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Stockport Posts: 135 Thanks: 56 Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts	You're not kidding! Typhoon IAB is £450 per litre! Half a litre (min order) was enough for the roof. Malc

20th April 2024, 11:42	#6
JerseySteve Avid contributor Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: St Helier Posts: 113 Thanks: 144 Thanked 34 Times in 24 Posts	My Moonstone bonnet and roof looks like someone has been ice skating on them. Be interested to know if there is an easy way to just strip the clearcoat off without damaging the underlying paint so that a new clearcoat could be applied(?). I cleared a part of the roof with compound but it would take forever to do everything.

20th April 2024, 12:03	#7
suzublu This is my second home rover 75 1.8 vvc club se wedgwood blue Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Seaton Carew Posts: 26,923 Thanks: 65 Thanked 7,142 Times in 4,642 Posts	All top surfaces on mine had clearcoat issues, as you, loads of little scratches. Bit the bullet and resprayed. 😎 Wedgwood blue btw Sent from my SM-A145R using Tapatalk

21st April 2024, 05:41	#10
Les4048 This is my second home Rover 75 Tourer/ MG ZT-T 400 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Lhanbryde Posts: 3,278 Thanks: 2,627 Thanked 1,523 Times in 869 Posts	I was told by a bodyshop coating with lacquer doesn’t work and in fact when I owned a 75 tourer I had the roof touched up and you could see it a mile off. Apparently the base coat is affected by sunlight and starts to change as soon as the lacquer lifts and deteriorates on a daily basis and only cure is repaint the panel