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Old 3rd June 2019, 20:30   #11
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Look at our own Representatives, can't get a job done between them.

Before we cast aspersions at others.

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At least ours don't want to build a wall to stop the Scots or the Welsh getting in!
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Not my favorite person but I agree with Darcydogs last sentence.

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A state visit by any POTUS is an occasion which I think should be welcomed and treated with due respect. It is an opportunity for the UK to rise above the politics as has been done with state visits afforded to previous and some might say far more controversial figures. The images will be projected around the world and people will expect to see what we can do best on these occasions.
this respect has to go both ways though, I am not sure he even could spell it, never mind understand what it means. (I can't help but think if he read that, he would challenge me to an IQ test ). It is all me me me, the US the US, but it is me first. If you go to another country, you should respect their cultures and traditions, and if you cant or dont want to, then accept that they exist. He needs someone to walk behind him saying 'you are only a man, only a man'


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Whether we love him or loathe him, he is where he is because of a democratic process.

He is the President of the US and therefore arguably the most powerful person on earth.

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I do not understand how the American democratic process works. I may have misunderstood it (and probably have) but the majority vote doesnt always win or even count, but 'college votes' are what counts?

I have always said that a businessman (or woman), preferably self made, should run a country, with an accountant running the exchequer. And I believe my theory is proving correct, however, Trump sadly doesnt have the diplomacy to do it as effectively as he could. Nor I believe has he the empathy to delegate effectively (he has been too coddled with yes men and has only seen the poor from driving past or collecting rents with his father). Perhaps he has delegated too much in the past that he is so far removed from the nitty gritty he doesnt understand why things dont happen or go his way (back to the yes men and coddling).

He is right I believe in shutting down everything (the federal govt, the borders trade, etc) and regrouping, then saying 'right, this is how it will be done......' (I know he shut down the govt more of a punishment and a show of strength, which is where the lack of diplomacy comes in).

But it is the cost of the visit that bothers me, as well as how the local infrastructure gets affected by it all. I was stuck on the motorway one evening with G Dubya's entourage having the opposite direction lanes to themselves, blasting down at 100+mph, the wrong way. The other direction had been stopped and diverted for over an hour! All at rush hour! He landed using marine one, and was driven back!

Previously a secret service agent trying to stop me from stopping my van when Clinton (at the time of the peace accord!) was due in four hours. 'You cannot park there, sir!' 'Hey look at that, I managed it!' went in and dropped off the repair and back out with him grumbling on his mic. Reading in the reg of the van lol. I wasnt planning on stopping, as even on a normal day you werent supposed to park there lol.
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He is most things I loath in a person - but we do have to be mindful that we (as a country) should “play the ball - not the player” - and treat what he represents with the respect deserved.
the problem with Trump though, he wont let you have the ball, and when he cant get it back, he will storm off the pitch.
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the problem with Trump though, he wont let you have the ball, and when he cant get it back, he will storm off the pitch.
Undoubtably true in many respects I would suggest. But as I said before - like him or loath him - his being prepared to walk away has produced results.

And how different our past three years might have been if we had had someone with his “skill-set”.

Our lot could not organise the proverbial in a brewery.

Trump is not to my liking - but he has a fair few achievements under his belt within a similar time period.
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And the best protest sign today (I have edited it for the forum)

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Us Brits sure do put on a good show, that state banquet looked super impressive.
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And the best protest sign today (I have edited it for the forum)

There's nowt like a bit of subtlety
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Written in words that Trump can understand.
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And the best protest sign today (I have edited it for the forum)

I think this one is

(Edited on my phone, I hope it has worked, if not, I hear Guantanamo is nice this time of year)

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