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Old 20th June 2019, 12:38   #21
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Not offended only very annoyed.

They .... and by that I mean the Media and Westminster Classes, are almost all quaking in their boots at the prospect of a NO DEAL exit. They want to fold our Ace of Trumps card. Indeed a new word has been coined which such types now use which I first saw recently. :~

BRINO! . BRexit In Name Only.... Cowsons. Still they plot and scheme to undermine as Maitlis allegedly puts it as reported on post #19 "The will of the people". It aint broke for those privileged classes, it is broke for millions of others. Those millions include some ordinary folks who voted remain who, due to Fake News slants, had little idea that they had suffered as a direct result of UK's EU membership. I know of two such in my circle of friends who voted remain and also suffered. A third DID get things back on track and knew why he suffered a loss of career. He took charge of the future for him and his young family and.. worked.... hard. Having suffered job loss, actually became more successful, left Europe and set up a successful engineering business in the far east. Now returned and bought a fine property in the nicer part of the county. It's an ill wind and all that and successful without any EU assist or sweetener. I believe there are sufficient folks like "right stuff" him and his good lady to make OUT work and benefit the Nation as a whole in the longer term. Unlike now whereby the EU benefits the few and becoming fewer.

I really dislike the term BREXIT. For the two privileged Classes in Westminster and Media, the word all too conveniently and covertly for them hides the real meaning of the OUT vote. That meaning being the severance of the uber-thick and getting thicker parasitical umbilical cord direct from UK Taxpayers to the Brussels monster.

BBC bias and fake slant still in fully active mode this morning. Have their 24/7 channel news rolling and now Politics Live although chairman ... yes BBC a man, one A Neil is one of the more trustworthy presenters the BBC use.
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Old 20th June 2019, 18:48   #22
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Down to two - Johnson and Hunt.
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Old 20th June 2019, 18:54   #23
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Down to two - Johnson and Hunt.
Can’t say I’m sorry. I think Gove is a total excreted substance and given the history between him and BJ - best for us all that he is not in the final two.

Best thing now is a competitive but mature campaign that enables the final selection without any daggers drawn at the end of it.
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At least it's finally getting somewhere, I do think this whole process could have been reduced massively. Its fine if your on opposition but as a government in the current circumstances it needed to be done much faster
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At least it's finally getting somewhere, I do think this whole process could have been reduced massively. Its fine if your on opposition but as a government in the current circumstances it needed to be done much faster
It’s not ideal “changing horses mid race” certainly - but given the total waste of space that TM proved to be - it has to be done.

And at least there is a selection process within the party that is legitimately in power - albeit with the help of the DUP. If we look back at how the Labour Party did the same - i.e. a change of Prime Minister - we just got presented with Gordon Brown after an uncontested election process.

Given the split within the country - and the scale of the issue that faces us, I dread to think what would happen if a Pro-Brexit or Pro-Remain individual became PM via the nudge nudge wink wink process that gave us Gordon Brown as PM.

Especially as that worked so well for us all.......
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I'm not too bothered about the precise nature of how they get to a result, I just think it can and should have been done quicker.
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I'm not too bothered about the precise nature of how they get to a result, I just think it can and should have been done quicker.
Well we’ve got a month of it now!!
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Over the last 75 years genuine and strong relationships have been forged, sometimes with common purpose. Those relationships are strong but can be fragile under some circumstances.

In spite of antipathy to some individuals the relationships with most nations, in the light of our shared history, have developed along amicable lines and I’d far sooner leave with a genuine and friendly handshake than by the sound of me slamming the door behind me. Not necessarily with only the thought of future prospects in mind but in the expectation of friendly respect and tolerance of divergent ambitions.

This result has been largely the expected one so let’s hope it can recover some, er, loss of focus.
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This result has been largely the expected one so let’s hope it can recover some, er, loss of focus.
That's no real loss in my books. I don't do Fords....

Sometimes, I wonder if I'm the right person for the job...

More seriously, I had two largish for me, bets on the next Tory Leader. Johnson obviously and not so obvious Hunt who an Ace BBC-bot had twubble with his name....What a Berk... rhyming slang as in Berkeley Hunt.

Whichever of the two wins, I will win a few quid but, purely because I will win more on Hunt, my wallet is rooting for him. It will not surprise me if there is a complete turnaround and the favourite falls at the final fence. Tory Party leadership contests have much form for that. Back in the 1960s, Douglas Home was a surprise and even John Major was a long short no hoper at one stage. There are several other such Tory Leader turn-ups for "the book" too.

Adds interest for me. I won a few quid at Ascot this. The racing as usual was top class. Star Jockey Frankie D played a blinder seven times and counting.

Following good "classic" horses which ran in a close finish Epsom Derby a few weeks ago. Top class three year old colts like those in the Derby can be rewarding. Big race winner today was a horse that finished third in the Derby. The horse finishing second in the race today was also in the Derby but down the field. I had the 1-2 forecast simply because of their running in the Derby. It paid 18-1. Only to a small amount though. Earlier in the week, the horse that finished sixth in the Derby won the big race that day at good odds. Mind you, although Derby form can be reliable, it is never that easy all the time.

I have several accounts with on-line bookies. Pays to shop around for best prices. Today two of those sent tempting FREE BETS on their various "Casino" operations. Free spins and other form of "virtual" racing.

I always reply simply "Not interested in Gambling"... .. because I'm not.

I do of course take advantage of genuine free bets. The best ones are no longer available.. Like bet £50 before KO of a top football game and have a free £50 bet during the game once it has started. Now those same bookies do the same free bet for a top limit of only £5 not £50. I wonder why ... no I don't ...

Last time I put a coin in a slot machine was about forty years ago. Pure gambling where no judgement is involved is of no interest to me. Prefer to wager my opinion against theirs on subjects that interest me.

Interesting programme on the radio recently. It seems those folks who get into debt "gambling" invariably are those playing the machines. No surprises for me there.

The Government are trying to restrict the individual amount one can gamble on one spin. Some of the stories on that programme were extreme examples of folks getting into big debt playing the machines.

Nice to win a few quid now and again but for me, being right is the real joy. However, the old saying is very true. You cannot win them all... life would be less interesting if you did. Just like Mercedes F1 winning all the time now...
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Over on another car web-site I dip into, there's another building thread with folks signing that petition. One post nailed it outlining their selections of ... implants aligning with the BBC's slant on these things. Boy has that backfired!:

You cannot make these things up. Total incompetence at best, or deliberate FAKE NEWS bias at its worst!

How the once rightly highly regarded BBC has declined. I had my card marked about BBC insiders who knew decades ago. I did not believe them. I do now. Never thought it would come to this, but, sadly it has.
Since had a communication from the UK Gov. petition organisers.

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Parliament is going to debate the petition you signed – “Abolish the BBC television license.”.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/235653

The debate is scheduled for 15 July 2019.

Once the debate has happened, we’ll email you a video and transcript.

They can discuss it senseless but yet again, the "ist" in me means I'd bet nothing effective will be done. The BBC-bots, all of 'em, need to earn what they pay themselves like most other broadcasters instead of merely greedily taking the License Money.

Thinks... does my signing that petition make me a Political "activist" ...
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