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Always found this a grey area or should I say a when you sat your driving licence area. Take my Neighbour, he drives a big Nissan 4x4 which weighs in at 2.5 Tonnes on the weigh bridge. His horse box weighs in at 1.35 tonnes. Each Horse is close to a tonne a piece. Two horses fit in the trailer this means that when fully loaded with two big beasts you can be looking at five people and their kit 500kg riding tack food and stuff is good for another 200kg. So the total weight of the fully laden combo is 6.5 tonnes. Not to mention that the beasts can have a shake in the box whilst towing. Now I have seen hundreds of these things over the years. Are they legal? I often see young people driving their toy Four wheel drive RVs with a horse box on the back coming down the village. I am willing to bet that 80% of them do not have the trailer add on they require on their licence, to pull their horse boxes. Their attitude is mum did it so I can do it. Many will be totally unaware of this requirement for younger drivers. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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Alanaslan - as long as the horses don't take the horsebox over it's gross weight (the most it'll ever be in the UK is 3500kg), and as long as the trailer isn't heaver than the maximum towing weight of their 4x4, then the 'combination' as it stands should be legal.
Whether the drivers you mention have the correct licence to tow a trailer is another matter however... I'm not sure how true it is, but I believe that in a situation where the gross train weight (car & horsebox) is over 3500kg, if the driver receives any form of 'betterment' from the purpose for which they are towing, e.g. winning a trophy or even just a rosette in the horse trials, then legally they should be using a tachograph.
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Hi Dawn.
It seems so as the seller as stated now sold & gone, I am sure the purchaser will say so when he or she is ready, it was to much of a bargain for it not to be collected by someone that's for sure.
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Hopefully, it will make a nice tow car when repaired.... 🤣
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I have memories of putting my friend George’s Austin Gypsy in for its road test. It was a pain, as the vehicle was from a working farm but also went to market it had to be weighed each year. In order for it to make its weight we had to park around the corner from the weigh bridge take the seat out drain the oil out the diff and gearbox and engine drain the fuel tank and drop the coolant, start her up take out the battery and drive her around the corner to be weighed, even doing all that it was touch and go if you made the plated weight. Thank goodness these days are over, I can never understand why plated weights are not wet weights. You would never get a diesel 75 down to its plated weight. Without taking the engine out and putting a moped under the bonnet. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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I was always under the impression that it was not about what you were towing weight wise that dictated whither a tachograph was required or not.
My understanding was if the vehicle could legally tow the weight, it had to have a tachograph fitted regardless. I know that when work hired in vehicles they always had them fitted, I always had some discs in my diary, for when David handed me a set of keys and asked for a favour. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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You only need a tachograph fitted if the total weight is 3.5 tonnes or over. You don’t need one if you are privately towing a caravan.
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My understanding is that it is thought that a private individual, on holiday for example, will take breaks if they get tired. Whereas a worker that is being payed by the hour may want to keep driving to earn more or to get home sooner, and hence increase the risk of an accident through fatigue.
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