Defeated! - Page 5

SirRustalot · 18th June 2014, 15:53

I'm at the putting together stage. I can't for the life of me get the gearbox to fit. It's lined up, I'm using a good transmission jack, I've put in two long bolts to aid alignment but it just won't slot back in.

I used my borescope to check nothing is out of place inside and the slave is lined up, the bearing cup sitting perfectly on the clutch fingers, and I've even used a drive shaft with the 'box in gear to try and help align the 'box shaft splines in case they're not matching the friction plate.

I just can't get the dang thing to slot into place. I've been at it all day and no further forward. Surely is should just 'clunk' into place - I've never had to force-tighten a 'box on and don't want to start now!

Any advice welcome at this stage 'cos I'm at the end of my tether (again).

kaiser · 18th June 2014, 16:18

Most likely stuck on the splines. Move it about and turn either the engine or the box while pushing and wriggling.

It will come right, unless the clutch plate has a problem with spline size or alignment.

You did fit the clutch plate first to see if it is the right one for the gearbox shaft?

HenryD · 18th June 2014, 16:48

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Originally Posted by SirRustalot

I'm at the putting together stage. I can't for the life of me get the gearbox to fit. It's lined up, I'm using a good transmission jack, I've put in two long bolts to aid alignment but it just won't slot back in.

I used my borescope to check nothing is out of place inside and the slave is lined up, the bearing cup sitting perfectly on the clutch fingers, and I've even used a drive shaft with the 'box in gear to try and help align the 'box shaft splines in case they're not matching the friction plate.

I just can't get the dang thing to slot into place. I've been at it all day and no further forward. Surely is should just 'clunk' into place - I've never had to force-tighten a 'box on and don't want to start now!

Any advice welcome at this stage 'cos I'm at the end of my tether (again).

The two long bolts you've fitted to aid alignment may be hindering you in getting the box back as they will not let you rock the box around much,some Renaults have the long studs fitted as standard and its not unusual to take them out to get the box back in then refit them afterwards

SirRustalot · 18th June 2014, 18:34

I've called in The Heavies - a 3-ton lifting crane.

I figured that it would be better dangling than supported by a tranny jack, what with the rocking and jostling etc.

Clutch plate splines up with gearbox shaft, for those that asked.

SirRustalot · 18th June 2014, 19:46

Jumpin' Jehovah!!! It's in!!!! The gearbox is IN!!

After a bit of dangling and a few turns of the crank via the pulley wheel, it eventually lined up and went in with satisfyingly-light 'clonk'. Bolts went in by finger, which is good 'cos it tells me that it's all aligned properly and then I nipped them up with the socket. A quick check with my borescope inside and all is well.

Right now, I'm skulling an ice-cold Stella, straight from the bottle. It tastes very good indeed.

Get one of these - it's made my life in general much easier.

http://www.bodyshop-tools-supplies.c...FQsEwwodtLkAEw. It's a lot less on eBay. I paid £70 for mine, brand new.

kaiser · 18th June 2014, 19:52

Don't get euphoric now, these thing happen thousands of times each day.

Just don't mistake the brake fluid for the Stella!

I think your gearbox jack was maybe pointing the box at a slightly wrong angle.

SirRustalot · 18th June 2014, 19:55

Thanks everyone. It's been...emotional.

Right now I'm so choked with hayfever I couldn't tell the difference between brake fluid and Stella.

DMGRS - Dude, you're message box is full!!

Avulon · 18th June 2014, 21:02

Congratulations, if you ever fancy a holiday in Northampton, you can come and do the clutch on mine even if it doesn't need it! (the current one has been in a year and half so far: so bound to fail again soon.)

berkshirelad · 19th June 2014, 09:04

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Originally Posted by kaiser

And, not to forget, when assembling, use an anti cease compound.

Yes, you should use an anti-cease compound - like beer or tea - you need to get the job finished!!

18th June 2014, 15:53	#41
SirRustalot Gets stuck in Box of ales and some cheap sunglasses Join Date: May 2010 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 670 Thanks: 323 Thanked 174 Times in 92 Posts	I'm at the putting together stage. I can't for the life of me get the gearbox to fit. It's lined up, I'm using a good transmission jack, I've put in two long bolts to aid alignment but it just won't slot back in. I used my borescope to check nothing is out of place inside and the slave is lined up, the bearing cup sitting perfectly on the clutch fingers, and I've even used a drive shaft with the 'box in gear to try and help align the 'box shaft splines in case they're not matching the friction plate. I just can't get the dang thing to slot into place. I've been at it all day and no further forward. Surely is should just 'clunk' into place - I've never had to force-tighten a 'box on and don't want to start now! Any advice welcome at this stage 'cos I'm at the end of my tether (again). __________________ Chocolate digestives - now there's a biscuit you can trust.

18th June 2014, 18:34	#44
SirRustalot Gets stuck in Box of ales and some cheap sunglasses Join Date: May 2010 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 670 Thanks: 323 Thanked 174 Times in 92 Posts	I've called in The Heavies - a 3-ton lifting crane. I figured that it would be better dangling than supported by a tranny jack, what with the rocking and jostling etc. Clutch plate splines up with gearbox shaft, for those that asked. __________________ Chocolate digestives - now there's a biscuit you can trust. Last edited by SirRustalot; 18th June 2014 at 21:23..

18th June 2014, 19:46	#45
SirRustalot Gets stuck in Box of ales and some cheap sunglasses Join Date: May 2010 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 670 Thanks: 323 Thanked 174 Times in 92 Posts	Jumpin' Jehovah!!! It's in!!!! The gearbox is IN!! After a bit of dangling and a few turns of the crank via the pulley wheel, it eventually lined up and went in with satisfyingly-light 'clonk'. Bolts went in by finger, which is good 'cos it tells me that it's all aligned properly and then I nipped them up with the socket. A quick check with my borescope inside and all is well. Right now, I'm skulling an ice-cold Stella, straight from the bottle. It tastes very good indeed. Get one of these - it's made my life in general much easier. http://www.bodyshop-tools-supplies.c...FQsEwwodtLkAEw. It's a lot less on eBay. I paid £70 for mine, brand new. __________________ Chocolate digestives - now there's a biscuit you can trust.

18th June 2014, 19:55	#47
SirRustalot Gets stuck in Box of ales and some cheap sunglasses Join Date: May 2010 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 670 Thanks: 323 Thanked 174 Times in 92 Posts	Thanks everyone. It's been...emotional. Right now I'm so choked with hayfever I couldn't tell the difference between brake fluid and Stella. DMGRS - Dude, you're message box is full!! __________________ Chocolate digestives - now there's a biscuit you can trust.

18th June 2014, 21:02	#48
Avulon This is my second home 1.8t Tourer Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tanelorn Posts: 4,830 Thanks: 956 Thanked 1,148 Times in 916 Posts	Congratulations, if you ever fancy a holiday in Northampton, you can come and do the clutch on mine even if it doesn't need it! (the current one has been in a year and half so far: so bound to fail again soon.) __________________ Need a T4 ?: T4 Owners Map thanks to Stevestrat ( use at your own risk) Where?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanelorn Mods/Retrofits: PCV vortex 'filter'; bluetooth; inline thermostat; reversing sensors; plenum spyhole ; headlamp washers ; Diy mp3 player replacing CD multichanger; FBH with remote; Headlamp washers; black/chrome front grille, rear blind; Xenon projectors To do: puddle lights; 2 Din cd/nav to fit; boot release button

18th June 2014, 16:18	#42
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	Most likely stuck on the splines. Move it about and turn either the engine or the box while pushing and wriggling. It will come right, unless the clutch plate has a problem with spline size or alignment. You did fit the clutch plate first to see if it is the right one for the gearbox shaft?

18th June 2014, 19:52	#46
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	Don't get euphoric now, these thing happen thousands of times each day. Just don't mistake the brake fluid for the Stella! I think your gearbox jack was maybe pointing the box at a slightly wrong angle.