Multiple Logins

Reebs · 20th January 2011, 14:03

As part of our duties as moderators, we are charged with upholding the clubs rules and regulations as laid out for all to see in the FAQ section of the forum here:

Forum Rules

Specifically item 12 is one we take a particularly dim view of when it is transgressed

12. Multiple logins are not allowed, ALL accounts which prove to be multiple accounts will be removed including the original account.

Today Raistlin furnished us with the final piece of evidence we needed to confirm his guilt in this matter.

In the interests of openness and honesty, which is a cause the member in question has championed long and hard for on many occasions here, I will share with you all what has been discovered.

Stemming back to June 30th a new member called Siegfried joined the club, nothing untoward there, indeed he even put down Raistlin as his referrer, one would think a member that would be 'sound as a pound' therefore.

However, whilst doing the many routine daily checks required of us, it very soon came to light that Siegfried and Raistlin both shared matching IP addresses on many occasions, a cause for concern especially when both came from a home rather than business location as was Siegfried’s original registration IP address.

Indeed on one evening on Sunday 26th September last year it was observed that both accounts were active within a very short space of time of each other, from the same computer.

Looking further into this, of the 12 posts made by Siegfried to date, several have appeared to challenge with vigor

Post #23

and subsequently

Post #26

Strong words from such a new member to the community it would seem.

Then 2 nights ago on the current thread of contention, after a posting gap of over 3 months, Siegfried returns, with an immediate retort from Raistlin to follow just 5 minutes later backing up his comment

Post #9

This is all reproduced here as background information to show how, for some time, suspicions were present in our minds of the potential duality of these two accounts.

Then this morning at 09:38 in response to a direct question posed to Raistlin by another member in this thread

You be the Judge

Siegfried replied in the first person as Raistlin would have.

See below for a screen grab specifically post # 8

Clearly on seeing the error of replying as Raistlin, but still being logged in as Siegfried, he quickly went back and edited his post to read...."mods please delete"

See exhibit B:

This did however all happen in plain sight of both myself and Dragrad, as well as another subscribed member who was viewing the post at the time.

We will not tolerate multiple logins, and when found, are acted upon swiftly. Back in July last year Rabett Rover was also found to have set up a duplicate account, and although both accounts should have been suspended at that time, because A) Lewis had freely admitted to it's existence, B) he had not used it to post as yet, and certainly not any posts that would support his original account's views, & C) with respect to Lewis, he is of junior years, and we all learn by experience.

But it is clear on all of these counts that Raistlin is neither of the above.

For someone who in his daily life strives to uphold what it is right and just, to be discovered not acting on an even playing field, I find deeply disturbing and wrong.

Both accounts have now been closed, and permanent bans served.

Be warned, if and when multiple logins are discovered, they will be dealt with in the strongest possible terms.

windrush · 20th January 2011, 14:14

Paul that is unbelievable and dishonest and him being a magistrate as well makes one think

Paulifa1 · 20th January 2011, 14:20

Tut, tut,... and a magistrate as well, how are we supposed to respect the justice system eh??

m0sko · 20th January 2011, 14:22

I don't quite understand why someone with five years club history and 8.5k posts on his account would do such thing? Did anyone from the Club try to contact him and ask about it?

adam

Rabett_Rover · 20th January 2011, 14:28

Before everyone gives Paul a verbal kicking may I be the first to say he has made valuable contributions to the club, with both his legal abilities and for what he has done for members.

His aptitude with the electronics of our cars meant he was the main instigator of the 'Ultimate Remote Mod', for those of you that don't know what this is please take a moment to search it. His skill also helped member Martin75, as he installed a floor mounted headlamp dimming switch. Martin for those of you that don't know suffers with a disability that means he struggles to use the hand controls on the stalk.

Paul's legal mind has also helped countless members (myself included), and has helped may people to save money from potential legal issues.

So before this thread gets filled up with 5 pages saying how bad Paul was. Think for a minute about all the good he did.

Richy · 20th January 2011, 14:28

Kinda makes me feel pretty bad now

CoOkIeMoNsTeR · 20th January 2011, 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabett_Rover

Before everyone gives Paul a verbal kicking may I be the first to say he has made valuable contributions to the club, with both his legal abilities and for what he has done for members.

His aptitude with the electronics of our cars meant he was the main instigator of the 'Ultimate Remote Mod', for those of you that don't know what this is please take a moment to search it. His skill also helped member Martin75, as he installed a floor mounted headlamp dimming switch. Martin for those of you that don't know suffers with a disability that means he struggles to use the hand controls on the stalk.

Paul's legal mind has also helped countless members (myself included), and has helped may people to save money from potential legal issues.

So before this thread gets filled up with 5 pages saying how bad Paul was. Think for a minute about all the good he did.

I concour. But then, if you don't play by the rules, you get the punishment. He should have known that.

Rabett_Rover · 20th January 2011, 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoOkIeMoNsTeR

I concour. But then, if you don't play by the rules, you get the punishment. He should have known that.

True, my point being though this doesn't need to turn into a thread where many people happy to take Paul's advice then stick a metaphorical knife in his back.

CoOkIeMoNsTeR · 20th January 2011, 14:38

I agree, Reebs OP was to inform us of the desision, not an open back stabbing thread.

Rabett_Rover · 20th January 2011, 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoOkIeMoNsTeR

I agree, Reebs OP was to inform us of the desision, not an open back stabbing thread.

True, defo ect

20th January 2011, 14:03	#1
Reebs Owners Club Director Rover 75 Conn SE V6 / MG ZT 260 SE V8 / MG ZT 180 SE V6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 20,936 Thanks: 645 Thanked 6,851 Times in 2,537 Posts	Multiple Logins As part of our duties as moderators, we are charged with upholding the clubs rules and regulations as laid out for all to see in the FAQ section of the forum here: Forum Rules Specifically item 12 is one we take a particularly dim view of when it is transgressed 12. Multiple logins are not allowed, ALL accounts which prove to be multiple accounts will be removed including the original account. Today Raistlin furnished us with the final piece of evidence we needed to confirm his guilt in this matter. In the interests of openness and honesty, which is a cause the member in question has championed long and hard for on many occasions here, I will share with you all what has been discovered. Stemming back to June 30th a new member called Siegfried joined the club, nothing untoward there, indeed he even put down Raistlin as his referrer, one would think a member that would be 'sound as a pound' therefore. However, whilst doing the many routine daily checks required of us, it very soon came to light that Siegfried and Raistlin both shared matching IP addresses on many occasions, a cause for concern especially when both came from a home rather than business location as was Siegfried’s original registration IP address. Indeed on one evening on Sunday 26th September last year it was observed that both accounts were active within a very short space of time of each other, from the same computer. Looking further into this, of the 12 posts made by Siegfried to date, several have appeared to challenge with vigor Post #23 and subsequently Post #26 Strong words from such a new member to the community it would seem. Then 2 nights ago on the current thread of contention, after a posting gap of over 3 months, Siegfried returns, with an immediate retort from Raistlin to follow just 5 minutes later backing up his comment Post #9 This is all reproduced here as background information to show how, for some time, suspicions were present in our minds of the potential duality of these two accounts. Then this morning at 09:38 in response to a direct question posed to Raistlin by another member in this thread You be the Judge Siegfried replied in the first person as Raistlin would have. See below for a screen grab specifically post # 8 Clearly on seeing the error of replying as Raistlin, but still being logged in as Siegfried, he quickly went back and edited his post to read...."mods please delete" See exhibit B: This did however all happen in plain sight of both myself and Dragrad, as well as another subscribed member who was viewing the post at the time. We will not tolerate multiple logins, and when found, are acted upon swiftly. Back in July last year Rabett Rover was also found to have set up a duplicate account, and although both accounts should have been suspended at that time, because A) Lewis had freely admitted to it's existence, B) he had not used it to post as yet, and certainly not any posts that would support his original account's views, & C) with respect to Lewis, he is of junior years, and we all learn by experience. But it is clear on all of these counts that Raistlin is neither of the above. For someone who in his daily life strives to uphold what it is right and just, to be discovered not acting on an even playing field, I find deeply disturbing and wrong. Both accounts have now been closed, and permanent bans served. Be warned, if and when multiple logins are discovered, they will be dealt with in the strongest possible terms. __________________ Check your trim here . Check your spec here Check your colour here . Check Project Drive here Check your original price here

20th January 2011, 14:14	#2
windrush This is my second home December 2004 Rover 75 2ltr CDTi Connoisseur SE HL Tourer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aldershot Posts: 74,464 Thanks: 2,431 Thanked 3,015 Times in 2,347 Posts	Paul that is unbelievable and dishonest and him being a magistrate as well makes one think __________________ ][SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] My Pearl Black Beauty Best regards Lilian and Derek Club Member No. 96 / Forum User No. 111 REGISTRATION to the club as a member FREE, FULL MEMBERSHIP is £10 WE WILL REMEMBER THEM

20th January 2011, 14:20	#3
Paulifa1 Loves to post 75 launch car Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: North East Lincs. Posts: 367 Thanks: 42 Thanked 56 Times in 41 Posts	Tut, tut,... and a magistrate as well, how are we supposed to respect the justice system eh??

20th January 2011, 14:22	#4
m0sko Avid contributor Rover 75 / BMW 123d coupe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SE Posts: 125 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I don't quite understand why someone with five years club history and 8.5k posts on his account would do such thing? Did anyone from the Club try to contact him and ask about it? adam

20th January 2011, 14:28	#5
Rabett_Rover This is my second home Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: - Posts: 5,895 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Before everyone gives Paul a verbal kicking may I be the first to say he has made valuable contributions to the club, with both his legal abilities and for what he has done for members. His aptitude with the electronics of our cars meant he was the main instigator of the 'Ultimate Remote Mod', for those of you that don't know what this is please take a moment to search it. His skill also helped member Martin75, as he installed a floor mounted headlamp dimming switch. Martin for those of you that don't know suffers with a disability that means he struggles to use the hand controls on the stalk. Paul's legal mind has also helped countless members (myself included), and has helped may people to save money from potential legal issues. So before this thread gets filled up with 5 pages saying how bad Paul was. Think for a minute about all the good he did.

20th January 2011, 14:28	#6
Richy Loves to post Contempory V6 2.5 Tourer Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Scunthorpe Posts: 250 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post	Kinda makes me feel pretty bad now

20th January 2011, 14:38	#9
CoOkIeMoNsTeR Gets stuck in No job = No Car :( Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Menai Bridge Posts: 607 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I agree, Reebs OP was to inform us of the desision, not an open back stabbing thread. __________________ Membership Number:- 455 Some people are like Slinky's. No use whatsoever, but still bring a smile to your face when you push them downstairs! He who laughs last thinks slowest! The CookieMonster fleet:- No car anymore unless you can give me a job I used to own a VW, but I don't like to talk about it [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]