Over70's- over the hill.

mileshawk56 · 4th May 2020, 08:57

A lady doctor on the radio saying because over 70's are likely to get the Corona virus. and be a drag on the country, they(70's and over) should be kept locked up when the rest of the country gets "everything going" Sounds very much "some pigs more equal than others" I suppose the local Council could do a monthly collection of the corpses, maybe a red cross on the door of any over70's dwelling. Personally I don't care much as Im over 80!. The lady is a member of some patient something or other group so I suppose she must show she is thinking about things and not just taking the money. Chris.S.

steve-45 · 4th May 2020, 09:47

Well if you look at the figures its not just the over 60's and 70's who are at higher risk, but smokers, obese people, men and ethnic minorities.

So most of the population will still be locked away !

wraymond · 4th May 2020, 11:49

I sincerely hope some busybody tries to keep me locked down. It may have escaped attention but physical restraint by force is still illegal without parliamentary ratification. Not merely an 'order in committee', but actual legislation to be used if a potentially violent situation arises. So bring it on. From 6' away.

Lancpudn · 4th May 2020, 12:29

I've been listening to this debate on BBC radio Manchester this morning in the garage & every person ringing in who it would affect said they'd ignore the order.

baxlin · 4th May 2020, 15:44

Mmm.

Looking for a silver lining here, Mrs B isn’t 70 yet, so she’d have to be doing all the running around, shopping etc....

But on reflection, I think I’d be joining the dissenters, having just returned from a lovely walk by the canal with the aforementioned MrsB. Can’t see myself not taking the 3 wheeler out, going to church, or rehearsing/gigging in the band, let alone not seeing the grandchildren - for a year!

Avulon · 4th May 2020, 16:12

Sounds like an idea of being forcibly secluded 'for your own good' to me. Same sort of people that fight for peace. And would, if they could, stop anyone doing anything with any risk attached: as if everyone would live forever (yuck) if only they didn't do things that shortened their lifespan.

I've already come across 2 mentions of this from the point of view of ageism and discrimination. And was wondering what plan anyone was objecting to.

The cynic in me now thinks this was succesful false flag propaganda. As in let's object to something that no-one is suggesting - it puts the idea in peoples heads without giving the idea overt support. They'll be enough loonies to support the idea once it's been mooted....

coolguy · 4th May 2020, 16:25

I suspect these stories about the over 70s are just to test the water before coming to a conclusion. I would be ready to sue for ageism!

SCP440 · 4th May 2020, 21:51

What will be interesting to see what order the vaccine gets dished out when we eventually get it. If over 70's are the high risk will they get it first or the people with pre existing medical conditions?

If the larger people in our society who smoke with an ethnic background are the higher risk is it time to start eating and take up smoking?

I was told a sad story today by a friend who lives in Birmingham. There neighbours daughter came home at the beginning of last week saying she was not feeling well, she had a bit of a temp so her parents sent her to bed and prepared to lock down. The following day she could hardly breath and her heart was racing, the paramedics took her to hospital and she was transferred to ITU, within 24 hours she had sadly died. She was only 26,white, did not smoke and not large or had any underlying health conditions. So sad.

mileshawk56 · 5th May 2020, 09:16

That's tragic- Chris.S

AndyN01 · 5th May 2020, 09:21

Dreadful news. Sad to hear. Illnesses are not selective

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4th May 2020, 08:57	#1
mileshawk56 Posted a thing or two MGZT Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Berkshire Posts: 1,281 Thanks: 1,738 Thanked 299 Times in 216 Posts	Over70's- over the hill. A lady doctor on the radio saying because over 70's are likely to get the Corona virus. and be a drag on the country, they(70's and over) should be kept locked up when the rest of the country gets "everything going" Sounds very much "some pigs more equal than others" I suppose the local Council could do a monthly collection of the corpses, maybe a red cross on the door of any over70's dwelling. Personally I don't care much as Im over 80!. The lady is a member of some patient something or other group so I suppose she must show she is thinking about things and not just taking the money. Chris.S.

4th May 2020, 11:49	#3
wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,185 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	I sincerely hope some busybody tries to keep me locked down. It may have escaped attention but physical restraint by force is still illegal without parliamentary ratification. Not merely an 'order in committee', but actual legislation to be used if a potentially violent situation arises. So bring it on. From 6' away. __________________ member no. 235

4th May 2020, 12:29	#4
Lancpudn This is my second home MG ZS EV Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 15,566 Thanks: 4,591 Thanked 3,427 Times in 2,565 Posts	I've been listening to this debate on BBC radio Manchester this morning in the garage & every person ringing in who it would affect said they'd ignore the order. __________________ Blessed are the tea makers. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3b...auto-2000_auto

4th May 2020, 15:44	#5
baxlin This is my second home Volvo C70 Convertible and JZR 3 wheeler Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tring, Herts Posts: 3,960 Thanks: 124 Thanked 173 Times in 124 Posts	Mmm. Looking for a silver lining here, Mrs B isn’t 70 yet, so she’d have to be doing all the running around, shopping etc.... But on reflection, I think I’d be joining the dissenters, having just returned from a lovely walk by the canal with the aforementioned MrsB. Can’t see myself not taking the 3 wheeler out, going to church, or rehearsing/gigging in the band, let alone not seeing the grandchildren - for a year! __________________ Only my opinion, obviously, so please don’t shoot me if it doesn’t match yours!

4th May 2020, 16:12	#6
Avulon This is my second home 1.8t Tourer Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tanelorn Posts: 4,830 Thanks: 956 Thanked 1,148 Times in 916 Posts	Sounds like an idea of being forcibly secluded 'for your own good' to me. Same sort of people that fight for peace. And would, if they could, stop anyone doing anything with any risk attached: as if everyone would live forever (yuck) if only they didn't do things that shortened their lifespan. I've already come across 2 mentions of this from the point of view of ageism and discrimination. And was wondering what plan anyone was objecting to. The cynic in me now thinks this was succesful false flag propaganda. As in let's object to something that no-one is suggesting - it puts the idea in peoples heads without giving the idea overt support. They'll be enough loonies to support the idea once it's been mooted.... __________________ Need a T4 ?: T4 Owners Map thanks to Stevestrat ( use at your own risk) Where?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanelorn Mods/Retrofits: PCV vortex 'filter'; bluetooth; inline thermostat; reversing sensors; plenum spyhole ; headlamp washers ; Diy mp3 player replacing CD multichanger; FBH with remote; Headlamp washers; black/chrome front grille, rear blind; Xenon projectors To do: puddle lights; 2 Din cd/nav to fit; boot release button

4th May 2020, 09:47	#2
steve-45 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon CDTi Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Belvedere Posts: 4,076 Thanks: 108 Thanked 1,089 Times in 774 Posts	Well if you look at the figures its not just the over 60's and 70's who are at higher risk, but smokers, obese people, men and ethnic minorities. So most of the population will still be locked away !

4th May 2020, 16:25	#7
coolguy Coolguy Rover 75 CDT Tourer Auto, Rover 75 2.0 Connoisseur Auto, MG ZT 2.5 Auto and MG ZT Cdti Auto (Monogra Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Finedon Posts: 1,896 Thanks: 933 Thanked 638 Times in 430 Posts	I suspect these stories about the over 70s are just to test the water before coming to a conclusion. I would be ready to sue for ageism!

4th May 2020, 21:51	#8
SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	What will be interesting to see what order the vaccine gets dished out when we eventually get it. If over 70's are the high risk will they get it first or the people with pre existing medical conditions? If the larger people in our society who smoke with an ethnic background are the higher risk is it time to start eating and take up smoking? I was told a sad story today by a friend who lives in Birmingham. There neighbours daughter came home at the beginning of last week saying she was not feeling well, she had a bit of a temp so her parents sent her to bed and prepared to lock down. The following day she could hardly breath and her heart was racing, the paramedics took her to hospital and she was transferred to ITU, within 24 hours she had sadly died. She was only 26,white, did not smoke and not large or had any underlying health conditions. So sad.

5th May 2020, 09:16	#9
mileshawk56 Posted a thing or two MGZT Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Berkshire Posts: 1,281 Thanks: 1,738 Thanked 299 Times in 216 Posts	That's tragic- Chris.S

5th May 2020, 09:21	#10
AndyN01 This is my second home Toyota RAV4 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Tamworth Posts: 3,070 Thanks: 2,478 Thanked 1,579 Times in 968 Posts	Dreadful news. Sad to hear. Illnesses are not selective .