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Old 25th November 2021, 19:25   #21
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Are you questioning the viability of Priti Patel's latest plan?
I thought that was putting Boris in an inflatable dingy in the middle of the channel holding a placard saying "Do you really want to come to a country where I'm in charge"!
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Old 25th November 2021, 19:27   #22
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The government has a large majority. Many Tories must have sided with the opposition parties.
Good point and more than likely correct, But there are more other parties apposing it than a few tories.
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Old 25th November 2021, 20:40   #23
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I cannot imagine what it must be like to be in the position these poor people are in. Crossing the channel in an inflatable dinghy in the winter smacks of desperation.

Whatever the rights or wrongs are- and from our comfortable homes we can debate all night- these people are dying horrible deaths. It's tragic
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Old 25th November 2021, 21:17   #24
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I cannot imagine what it must be like to be in the position these poor people are in. Crossing the channel in an inflatable dinghy in the winter smacks of desperation.

Whatever the rights or wrongs are- and from our comfortable homes we can debate all night- these people are dying horrible deaths. It's tragic
I agree with you............BUT if they are that desperate to go to the UK, WHY dont they go the LEGAL ROUTE?? OK it might take longer but at least they would be legally allowed here.
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Old 25th November 2021, 21:24   #25
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[QUOTE=Simondi;2909619]I cannot imagine what it must be like to be in the position these poor people are in. Crossing the channel in an inflatable dinghy in the winter smacks of desperation.

Well they are all Poor now! as they have all paid
££££'s to attempt to get here in inflatables.

French police could quite easily stop many attempts by shooting holes in the inflatables on sight before they get near the water.

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Old 25th November 2021, 21:42   #26
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In answer to both, I have no idea.

It's still tragic though, there but for the grace of God
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Old 25th November 2021, 21:47   #27
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Neither gives them the automatic right to stay in the UK, anybody coming into the country has to apply to remain here. I suspect laying minefields in the channel would raise a few eyebrows.
LOL.----Rather more than eyebrows I'd expect.---
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Nobody wants to see anyone lose their lives in tragic circumstances but economic migrants/assylum seekers are meant to stop in the first safe country.As far as I'm aware France is a safe country.Why would you risk your life and those of your family to illegally enter the UK?
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I cannot imagine what it must be like to be in the position these poor people are in. Crossing the channel in an inflatable dinghy in the winter smacks of desperation.

Well they are all Poor now! as they have all paid
££££'s to attempt to get here in inflatables.

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French police could quite easily stop many attempts by shooting holes in the inflatables on sight before they get near the water.

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Maybe not shoot holes in the dingy but certainly hole them, either with a spiked pole, slash with a knife, or better still all those type of boats should only be sold to anyone with a full passport, driving licence, also they should be registered to that person.

If then found to be used in crossings like this, the registered person is jailed with intent to endanger lives.

How about this if you did manage to reach our shores, you are given dry warm clothing, a good hot meal, then 4-8 hours later you are shipped back to France to start all over again, how many would even bother if they knew that was going to be the outcome no matter what.

Also if we and other countries can track down international crooks, and terrorists, so why can't we track down the people smugglers it should be easy.

We are not at war with anyone at the moment are we so why not use the navy, use the SAS etc to penetrate these gangs and so on, as already stated above come here through the proper channels, i am sure if you are skilled or not and can arrange to have a job here you would be more than welcome and not have to jump through lots of different hoops.

It could all be stopped over night if the government really wanted it too, as for lady ( Priti Patel ) she is a puppet not fit to do the job, like a lot of politicians, it's a job for someone to be strong and not to bothered about what people might think of you.

Would it not be good if job description actually matched you, ie a doctor be the health minister, etc someone from the actual profession.

bricklayers lay bricks, bakers bake bread and cake, pilots fly planes, seems simple don't you think.

Now the job of being a prime minister does not really need a skill does it? as all you have to do is follow what we the people of the country ask you to do for us, is that really hard.
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I see a letter from Boris has scuppered the apple cart. Unfortunately it’s not an EU problem it’s a UK one, our current relationship with the EU doesn’t help.
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