Do these actually work?

Redmaestro · 28th February 2019, 07:09

I was buying some books on amazon last night and after I'd finished, I used "MG ZT" as a search criteria just out of curiosity. What came up was a mix of the usual accessories and Haynes manuals but I also came across this:

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Has anyone had got any experiences using one?

marinabrian · 28th February 2019, 07:24

No they don't work, there are various reasons why, but you could try some of this in the fuel tank instead

Brian

sworks · 1st March 2019, 20:42

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Originally Posted by marinabrian

No they don't work, there are various reasons why, but you could try some of this in the fuel tank instead

Brian

You forgot to add a link to buy some........

marinabrian · 1st March 2019, 21:20

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Originally Posted by sworks

You forgot to add a link to buy some........

Shh, don't tell Sir Toppham Hatt though

LINK

Brian

MSS · 2nd March 2019, 07:36

Please people - stop casting aspersions about snake oil. Many of us have been using it for years for all sorts of applications. It works wonderfully. I have a very happy life thanks to snake oil.

I'm pretty sure Brian uses it for clutch lubrication but keeps it a trade secret.

hogweed · 2nd March 2019, 08:03

Original (genuine) snake oil was supposed to help with joint pain etc – not so far-fetched as you might think, as it contained some of the essential fatty acids found in fish oil, which some people also believe to help with that.

Its reputation as a bogus cure-all actually stemmed from travelling con men knocking up “patent medicines” sold as snake oil, but actually being mixtures of motor oil and whatever other drugs they had to hand (heroin, cocaine etc). The use of genuine snake oil originated as part of TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) hundreds of years ago.

It would seem that the temptation to con people this way is hard for some people to resist – people flock in their hordes to present-day practitioners of TCM here in the UK. TCM is of doubtful medical value, as evidenced by the fact that there was a series of prosecutions in the 90’s of TCM practitioners who were found to be adulterating their “harmless” herbal medicines with powerful drugs in a effort to make them actually effective.

I had a personal experience of this back then with a TCM practitioner in Bath. For many years, I had been disabled for several months of each year by severe hay fever, with the only effective drug being a powerful steroid, which came with an impressive portfolio of side-effects, and whose usage and dosage needed to be very carefully controlled, and which I was reluctant to take.

I was treated by the TCM “doctor”, and was delighted to find that my symptoms were dramatically reduced. However, as they used to say in the Letters page of VIZ, Brian, imagine my surprise when I saw on the local news that the TCM guys in Bath had been arrested for doping their herbs with dangerously high doses of said steroid…

Avulon · 28th February 2019, 07:27

Sure they work, the give up to 35% more bhp etc... I can firmly guarantee without knowing anything about them or knowing anyone that has used them that the average gain by the typical vehicle will be 0%

Raspberrycai · 28th February 2019, 08:43

Bloke on youtube called Big Clive did a video about these where he took one apart. Literally all they do is they plug into your OBD2 port and flash, they literally do nothing else. It's well worth getting a remap instead as opposed to a flashing box.

Nick Greg · 28th February 2019, 09:22

They work as well as a £70 HDMI lead out of the back of your telly. Pure BS

hogweed · 28th February 2019, 09:43

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Originally Posted by Nick Greg

They work as well as a £70 HDMI lead out of the back of your telly. Pure BS

Now there's the truth

28th February 2019, 07:09	#1
Redmaestro Avid contributor Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 106 Thanks: 11 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Do these actually work? I was buying some books on amazon last night and after I'd finished, I used "MG ZT" as a search criteria just out of curiosity. What came up was a mix of the usual accessories and Haynes manuals but I also came across this: LINK REMOVED Has anyone had got any experiences using one?

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hogweed I really should get out more....... Vauxhall Insignia CDTi; MG TF 135 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 2,959 Thanks: 942 Thanked 378 Times in 297 Posts	Original (genuine) snake oil was supposed to help with joint pain etc – not so far-fetched as you might think, as it contained some of the essential fatty acids found in fish oil, which some people also believe to help with that. Its reputation as a bogus cure-all actually stemmed from travelling con men knocking up “patent medicines” sold as snake oil, but actually being mixtures of motor oil and whatever other drugs they had to hand (heroin, cocaine etc). The use of genuine snake oil originated as part of TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) hundreds of years ago. It would seem that the temptation to con people this way is hard for some people to resist – people flock in their hordes to present-day practitioners of TCM here in the UK. TCM is of doubtful medical value, as evidenced by the fact that there was a series of prosecutions in the 90’s of TCM practitioners who were found to be adulterating their “harmless” herbal medicines with powerful drugs in a effort to make them actually effective. I had a personal experience of this back then with a TCM practitioner in Bath. For many years, I had been disabled for several months of each year by severe hay fever, with the only effective drug being a powerful steroid, which came with an impressive portfolio of side-effects, and whose usage and dosage needed to be very carefully controlled, and which I was reluctant to take. I was treated by the TCM “doctor”, and was delighted to find that my symptoms were dramatically reduced. However, as they used to say in the Letters page of VIZ, Brian, imagine my surprise when I saw on the local news that the TCM guys in Bath had been arrested for doping their herbs with dangerously high doses of said steroid… __________________ Past cars: MGB GT; Escort 1300 Sport; Vauxhall VX4/90; Marina Coupe TC; Celica ST (1972); Montego Turbo; Astra GTE 16V; Astra GSI 16V; Golf GTI 16V (Mk II); Sierra XR4x4 Estate; BMW 325i (E30); BMW M3 3.0; BMW M3 3.2 Evo. Left some of the more embarrassing ones out. And about 30 motorbikes.

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28th February 2019, 07:24	#2
marinabrian MG ZT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 20,151 Thanks: 3,565 Thanked 10,837 Times in 5,718 Posts	No they don't work, there are various reasons why, but you could try some of this in the fuel tank instead Brian

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28th February 2019, 09:22	#9
Nick Greg Posted a thing or two Honda Insight Hybrid Join Date: May 2015 Location: Brighouse Posts: 1,157 Thanks: 691 Thanked 424 Times in 280 Posts	They work as well as a £70 HDMI lead out of the back of your telly. Pure BS