Thinking of buying

steve1975 · 16th October 2018, 15:35

Iv recently come across a jaguar S type R that's possibly coming up for sale due to the elderly owner giving up driving due to I'll health,now it's a 05 plate S type R 4.2 V8 that's been sat outside for 3yrs,now apart from the obvious like new tyres,discs and pads and a basic service of new oil and filter etc and possibly brake lines...are these cars prone to anything else that I should be aware of,as far as I know it ran spot on due to being parked up due to I'll health.

The_irish_rover · 16th October 2018, 15:57

I’m not familiar with the type R but like most S types it would be worth checking the inner sills. Rear suspension was an issue (but from memory I ink this W on pre-04 cars).

ziggy72 · 16th October 2018, 16:03

If its been sat a while I would check the rear electric handbrake too as it has a separate caliper to the main rear brake caliper and it could be seized if not operated for that length of time.
Apart from a blocked cat pipe that I got replaced for £120 mine hasn't missed a beat in the the 3 or so year I've had it. Servicing is a third of the price at an independent compared to a main dealer and parts are plenty if needed too.

P-Nut · 16th October 2018, 16:05

Rear sills will need replacing, they are notorious.

Gazmo65 · 16th October 2018, 16:23

All s types suffer from rust so check throughly, the auto box needs to have been serviced which jaguar dealers don't do as its sealed for life which is rubbish, a service will cost you around £400 for a specialist to do it, as it needs the correct grade of oil, ZF6 lifeguard or equivalent the filter for it is actually the gearbox sump, you can do it yourself as all parts are available from Bristol transmissions, you will need the sleeve and screw kit also, I have done my own and it doesn't take to long but I did hire a 4 post ramp locally to do it, the spark plugs need changed around 70000 mile which is easier on the v8 than the v6, there is a hose that can fail in the V of the engine and I believe you have to remove the supercharger to replace it, the timing chain tensioners should be OK on the 4.2 engine although they were weak on the 4.0 and need changed, the electric handbrake can fail if not used so needs lubricating and used as much as possible, suspension parts are expensive. Interiors are lovely and comfortable and hard wearing, if fitted with the Sat nav system it will be out of date as the latest discs available are 2012, the TV wont work as its pre digital, it is possible to modify it but its complex and costly. The sunroof can leak but its just the drains, the heater mixer valve in the engine bay can pack up. Like any other car they have their own quirks. I'm sure there are other things but I'm trying to remember, age is a naughty word

ziggy72 · 16th October 2018, 16:40

I'm glad to know I have the only corrosion and rust free s-type in existence as it keeps being mentioned that 'they all do that'.
Now where have I heard that phrase before.

Gazmo65 · 16th October 2018, 18:49

I have evidence its not a myth,

seen it with my own pork pies when doing the gearbox oil change , needless to say I've started treating it only thing is its started to bubble on one of the rear wheel arches now

ziggy72 · 16th October 2018, 20:24

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Originally Posted by Gazmo65

I have evidence its not a myth,

seen it with my own pork pies when doing the gearbox oil change , needless to say I've started treating it only thing is its started to bubble on one of the rear wheel arches now

Nobody said it was a myth. Lots of factors can determine whether one will rust whilst others don't. being garaged, located in damp coastal areas etc. The design of the sill cover with a very small cut-out for the jacking points doesn't help at all. The correct jaguar Jack has to be used which has a 2 inch square end with a slot in the middle which fits into the sill cover and onto the pinch seem of the sill.
Take the car to most garages and tyre fitting centres and they won't pull the supplied Jack out the boot but stick a trolley Jack under the jacking point which doesn't fit into the cut-out and ends up pushing the sill cover against the sill breaking the sealer on the sill flange at the jacking points. Once water and moisture get in and through to the bare metal it spreads over time. Dirt trapped behing the sill covers and blocking drain holes doesn't help either A poor design admittedly but it can be avoided.
I went to view 5 s-type R before I bought the one I have and only one had corrosion on the sills when I checked behind the covers. A couple had bubbling to the edges of the wings and one of those had it to the lip of the quarter panel too.
If finances add up hopefully I'll be on the lookout for a diesel ztt or 75 tourer after new year to run as a daily driver.

16th October 2018, 15:35	#1
steve1975 Banned rover 75 saloon Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: workington Posts: 1,890 Thanks: 385 Thanked 449 Times in 279 Posts	Thinking of buying Iv recently come across a jaguar S type R that's possibly coming up for sale due to the elderly owner giving up driving due to I'll health,now it's a 05 plate S type R 4.2 V8 that's been sat outside for 3yrs,now apart from the obvious like new tyres,discs and pads and a basic service of new oil and filter etc and possibly brake lines...are these cars prone to anything else that I should be aware of,as far as I know it ran spot on due to being parked up due to I'll health.

16th October 2018, 15:57	#2
The_irish_rover Loves to post Rover 75 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Kent Posts: 448 Thanks: 273 Thanked 132 Times in 98 Posts	I’m not familiar with the type R but like most S types it would be worth checking the inner sills. Rear suspension was an issue (but from memory I ink this W on pre-04 cars). __________________ 2000 Rover 75 Club SE 2.0 Auto. Previously owned by Grandy, then Wraymond. Mods include, blue LED interior lighting, "marmite" under door handle lighting, power folds & Naval 1 head unit with Kenwood sub. Since buying the car I've retro fitted an electric sunblind & converted the manual cloth seats to leather.

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ziggy72 Posted a thing or two Jaguar S-Type R Audi A5 Sportback Join Date: May 2012 Location: Gateshead Posts: 1,009 Thanks: 823 Thanked 323 Times in 222 Posts	If its been sat a while I would check the rear electric handbrake too as it has a separate caliper to the main rear brake caliper and it could be seized if not operated for that length of time. Apart from a blocked cat pipe that I got replaced for £120 mine hasn't missed a beat in the the 3 or so year I've had it. Servicing is a third of the price at an independent compared to a main dealer and parts are plenty if needed too. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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16th October 2018, 16:23	#5
Gazmo65 Loves to post Volvo S80 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Burton Latimer Posts: 268 Thanks: 11 Thanked 39 Times in 20 Posts	All s types suffer from rust so check throughly, the auto box needs to have been serviced which jaguar dealers don't do as its sealed for life which is rubbish, a service will cost you around £400 for a specialist to do it, as it needs the correct grade of oil, ZF6 lifeguard or equivalent the filter for it is actually the gearbox sump, you can do it yourself as all parts are available from Bristol transmissions, you will need the sleeve and screw kit also, I have done my own and it doesn't take to long but I did hire a 4 post ramp locally to do it, the spark plugs need changed around 70000 mile which is easier on the v8 than the v6, there is a hose that can fail in the V of the engine and I believe you have to remove the supercharger to replace it, the timing chain tensioners should be OK on the 4.2 engine although they were weak on the 4.0 and need changed, the electric handbrake can fail if not used so needs lubricating and used as much as possible, suspension parts are expensive. Interiors are lovely and comfortable and hard wearing, if fitted with the Sat nav system it will be out of date as the latest discs available are 2012, the TV wont work as its pre digital, it is possible to modify it but its complex and costly. The sunroof can leak but its just the drains, the heater mixer valve in the engine bay can pack up. Like any other car they have their own quirks. I'm sure there are other things but I'm trying to remember, age is a naughty word

16th October 2018, 18:49	#7
Gazmo65 Loves to post Volvo S80 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Burton Latimer Posts: 268 Thanks: 11 Thanked 39 Times in 20 Posts	I have evidence its not a myth, seen it with my own pork pies when doing the gearbox oil change , needless to say I've started treating it only thing is its started to bubble on one of the rear wheel arches now