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Old 13th May 2019, 15:25   #21
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Hmm, I might get a set of trade plates and use the 214 for a couple of weeks, you can't be the only one going over 400K Mike
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Old 13th May 2019, 23:33   #22
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Scary to think, - that is around £40,000 worth of fuel!
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Old 13th May 2019, 23:36   #23
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From new I've always filled up with the cheapest Derv I can find.
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Old 14th May 2019, 00:14   #24
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Scary to think, - that is around £40,000 worth of fuel!
Andrew, I've pulled the fuel figures for my own hack 214, with 398,430 miles on the clock.......................................



Are you sitting down?

£32873 over the space of ten years of service, however by the same token, as I was charging my business mileage out at 40 pence per mile...................

The total gross income over ten years of that particular vehicle...............

£1484084

So I think it's fair to say, the car paid for itself quite well don't you agree?

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Old 14th May 2019, 02:47   #25
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Coincidently I was looking at some stats for a 747 recently and regards fuel consumption over the life of one with 100,000 hours on its airframe you'd be looking ~ 1 million.

Tons that is.
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That's because it is designed and built by people who actually know a thing or two about engineering, the average Toyota can breeze through 200k miles like a walk in the park park, just keep changing that oil, it will do another 200k before it starts to sweat.

Surely, the Yaris is only reliable because it has very little that is new, leading edge or desirable from an enthusist's viewpoint. It really is basic. In fact, it is not all that reliable in relative terms.

The Japanese started to lose their way on dependability/reliability about 10 years ago. Toyota more than most. I believe their CEO actually said so when he publicly apologised a few years ago for some serious issues with one of their cars.

Take a look at the latest JD Power survery - the results will surprise most people.

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...-Skoda-Hyundai


https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...-Mercedes-Ford
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morning, just having breakfast then outside to change fuel filter on my wifes diesel kia ceed sw. its a sept 2013 car, now with 173k miles. its a very reliable car, theres a lot to be said about kia/Hyundai, not perfect just strong vehicles where it matters. I hear some horror stories about other popular makes and wonder why buy. Our next vehicle will be a skoda estate.
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Old 14th May 2019, 08:11   #28
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Quite shocked recently, saw a Citroen DS for sale for around 6k, ad said 100k miles. Now for me, a 62 reg car is almost brand new, it seems they get old quickly and depreciate even quicker.
French cars have always depreciated in value quickly, until French cars can improve their perception of quality, this will always continue.

Its the same reason to why so many here say they would never own a 'eurobox', many reasons are given and this will always continue until the perception has changed.

You certainly don't see many of the older French cars about these days, they seem to be the first to leave the UK roads after 8+ years, the quality and value just isn't there.
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Which leads us on to our own cars, they can't depreciate much now. This is probably why we have them, not many rusty ones about. The 75/ZT is cheaper long term than most shall we say 'modern' cars.
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Which leads us on to our own cars, they can't depreciate much now. This is probably why we have them, not many rusty ones about. The 75/ZT is cheaper long term than most shall we say 'modern' cars.



Only because it has already suffered heavy depreciation!

This is not so for those the owners who bought their 75/ZT cars new or almost new.

The 75/ZT is no different to any other car in this sense.
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