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Old 19th May 2019, 10:10   #1
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Sunday Times reports that JLR will post losses north of 3 billion pounds tomorrow morning - due to collapsing Chinese sales and Brexit uncertainty - also rumours that they may merge with PSA - the French outfit who own Peugeot.
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Old 19th May 2019, 17:38   #2
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The downhill path started with putting diesel engines into Jags (sounds of Sir William Lyons turning in his grave) and then making SUVs! Grace, space and pace were the order of the day! Having looked underneath one of the new ones and seeing how little rust protection there is can only mean one thing! I will not be buying one anytime soon!
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The downhill path started with putting diesel engines into Jags (sounds of Sir William Lyons turning in his grave) and then making SUVs! Grace, space and pace were the order of the day! Having looked underneath one of the new ones and seeing how little rust protection there is can only mean one thing! I will not be buying one anytime soon!
What are they lacking in terms of rust protection - is it all specs?
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Old 19th May 2019, 20:34   #4
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The downhill path started with putting diesel engines into Jags (sounds of Sir William Lyons turning in his grave) and then making SUVs! Grace, space and pace were the order of the day! Having looked underneath one of the new ones and seeing how little rust protection there is can only mean one thing! I will not be buying one anytime soon!
I suspect this post would not exist if they didnt use a diesel, nor make SUVs (as much as I hate them). If they didnt move with market trends they would have had to cease long ago. Now they are using electric
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Whether you agree or disagree with the new products of a particular company, they are only there to make a profit and that means supplying whatever the market demands at that time and in the foreseeable future - be it diesels, SUV's, EV's, etc.

Considering where the current MG's started from, they are showing a sensible sales increase year-on-year with the new ZS, something that didn't really happen with the original MG6 & Magnette.

The buying public currently seem to want small to medium SUV's - Juke, Ecosport, Crossland X, etc. so as much as MG were never known for this type of vehicle, they are at least building what people want. Maybe if the original MG Rover had done this, history would now be quite different

As for JLR, farmers buying a new Defender every 10 years will never give the profits seen from the current line-up sold on 3 year PCP's.
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What are they lacking in terms of rust protection - is it all specs?
From what I saw, the box sections were only painted in primer and basecoat and when I queried it with sales staff, they said that is how they all come from the factory.
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Whether you agree or disagree with the new products of a particular company, they are only there to make a profit and that means supplying whatever the market demands at that time and in the foreseeable future - be it diesels, SUV's, EV's, etc.

Considering where the current MG's started from, they are showing a sensible sales increase year-on-year with the new ZS, something that didn't really happen with the original MG6 & Magnette.

The buying public currently seem to want small to medium SUV's - Juke, Ecosport, Crossland X, etc. so as much as MG were never known for this type of vehicle, they are at least building what people want. Maybe if the original MG Rover had done this, history would now be quite different

As for JLR, farmers buying a new Defender every 10 years will never give the profits seen from the current line-up sold on 3 year PCP's.
There seems to be a huge number of Jag SUV's around. Have to say I like them, almost as nice as our ZS
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The downhill path started with putting diesel engines into Jags (sounds of Sir William Lyons turning in his grave) and then making SUVs! Grace, space and pace were the order of the day! Having looked underneath one of the new ones and seeing how little rust protection there is can only mean one thing! I will not be buying one anytime soon!
Jaguar's top selling models in order are E Pace, F Pace and I Pace - spot a trend here?
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The combined production totals for Porsche Macan and Cayenne accounted for more than 61% of the company's output in 2018.

The Macan alone sold more than the 911 and Panamera combined.
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From what I saw, the box sections were only painted in primer and basecoat and when I queried it with sales staff, they said that is how they all come from the factory.
If its a new company car or you've got it on, or a 3yr no ownership PCP / lease type purchase, which the vast majority of this type of vehicle are, lack of corrosion protection is not your problem 6 or 7 yrs down the line if your handing it back in 3yrs.

If I was PCPing a car where repairs or problems are not my problem, and i dont have to pay for them, I would happily drive a Alpha Romeo etc, but own outright myself, no chance !!!!!!!
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