Vehicle Excise Duty Refunds.

RayDar · 17th December 2016, 16:22

Sold my 75 on the 9th sent off V5 info on 10th & got acknowledgement on 17th that I am no longer the registered owner. Quite speedy for the DVLA. Why then do they warn you that the refund may not be paid for 4 to 6 weeks! Iam due 11 months refund and I would prefer it in my Bank account rather than have it residiing with the Treasury!

Another gripe; having paid a full amount of VED( £270) and then maybe only travelling say2/3k miles in a year in my 75 which had been a "hobby" car, I for one would like to see VED transfered to a tax on fuel; that way nobody would be able to get away with not paying and those that travel high mileages 20/30k per annum thus putting more wear our roads would pay a fair share of the cost of their maintenance - maybe?

Rooney · 17th December 2016, 16:26

They warn you it may take that long because they like to drag their heels.

I honestly think everybody should pay by direct debit to avoid just this situation.

They're scammers anyway - if you sell a car they don't issue a refund for a part month, but they charge the new owner for a full month for the same part month, meaning they get two months duty for that car for that particular month.

Nobody but the government would get away with that sort of pointy stick policy.

macafee2 · 17th December 2016, 16:52

more important when selling a car, is tell your insurance company as soon as its sold. if you don't and there is an accident you can end up well and truly in the mire

macafee2

steve-45 · 17th December 2016, 21:28

And if you do tell the insurance company and don't then put the car on SORN or send in the ownership transfer slip they will send you a letter threatening to fine you for having a car taxed but not insured.

tourer · 17th December 2016, 21:53

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Originally Posted by RayDar

Sold my 75 on the 9th sent off V5 info on 10th & got acknowledgement on 17th that I am no longer the registered owner. Quite speedy for the DVLA. Why then do they warn you that the refund may not be paid for 4 to 6 weeks! Iam due 11 months refund and I would prefer it in my Bank account rather than have it residiing with the Treasury!

Another gripe; having paid a full amount of VED( £270) and then maybe only travelling say2/3k miles in a year in my 75 which had been a "hobby" car, I for one would like to see VED transfered to a tax on fuel; that way nobody would be able to get away with not paying and those that travel high mileages 20/30k per annum thus putting more wear our roads would pay a fair share of the cost of their maintenance - maybe?

Don't hold your breath for the 4/6 weeks.
After seven weeks I had still not received my refund. Rings them up and they agreed I had done everything correctly and they didn't know what had happened. Told they would refund "manually" but would take around another four weeks.
Finally refunded after 11 weeks!!!!
They wanted payment in advance when I taxed the car!
Dual standards, or what?

RayDar · 18th December 2016, 15:59

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Originally Posted by g.mc.g

They warn you it may take that long because they like to drag their heels.

I honestly think everybody should pay by direct debit to avoid just this situation.

They're scammers anyway - if you sell a car they don't issue a refund for a part month, but they charge the new owner for a full month for the same part month, meaning they get two months duty for that car for that particular month.

Nobody but the government would get away with that sort of pointy stick policy.

Only problem with Direct Debit is the DVLA load the cost by 5% and that makes things more expensive and the Bank Rate is no where near 5% !
Scrooge comes to mind with it getting near Xmas

Rooney · 18th December 2016, 16:57

Yep, but you're paying for the convenience of paying in installments, that's reasonable considering it does generate a wee bit of paperwork.

Works out about £9.25 a year more for a 75 - cheap enough to make it worthwhile imho.

anddyy · 18th December 2016, 21:32

The direct debit works out cheaper than if you were to buy 6 months at a time, it's 10% for it 6 months, so 5% for the direct debit i thinks fair.

RayDar · 19th December 2016, 10:33

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Originally Posted by tourer

Don't hold your breath for the 4/6 weeks.
After seven weeks I had still not received my refund. Rings them up and they agreed I had done everything correctly and they didn't know what had happened. Told they would refund "manually" but would take around another four weeks.
Finally refunded after 11 weeks!!!!
They wanted payment in advance when I taxed the car!
Dual standards, or what?

Well " I don't believe it " as Victor might say . Got my refund cheque dated 14th December this morning. THey would have only got my V5 notification on Monday 12th !! Take back all I said.

Polly · 19th December 2016, 12:44

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Originally Posted by RayDar

Sold my 75 on the 9th sent off V5 info on 10th & got acknowledgement on 17th that I am no longer the registered owner. Quite speedy for the DVLA. Why then do they warn you that the refund may not be paid for 4 to 6 weeks! Iam due 11 months refund and I would prefer it in my Bank account rather than have it residiing with the Treasury!

Another gripe; having paid a full amount of VED( £270) and then maybe only travelling say2/3k miles in a year in my 75 which had been a "hobby" car, I for one would like to see VED transfered to a tax on fuel; that way nobody would be able to get away with not paying and those that travel high mileages 20/30k per annum thus putting more wear our roads would pay a fair share of the cost of their maintenance - maybe?

I don't believe for a minute that free road tax would anything other than a popular move, but I don't think the idea stands up to proper scrutiny.
Let us just ignore the fact that the duty collected bears no connection to money spent on our roads. We should however consider the fact that, no matter how collected, the government will need to collect the same amount of revenue. Now we also need to consider that car enthusiasts like ourselves often tax more than one car, reading between the lines, you would probably have at least two, I have four, although not all taxed for the full year, but I still pay over £1k in road tax, and probably drive about 5 or 6k miles per year.
Now you will notice that on the face of it, I would benefit more than most from the scheme, but then the over 20k per year motorists you refer to would have to pick up the tab for my savings, and these are the business users who would simply pass the cost on to their customers (you and me)
Then we have to consider that over 80p of the cost of litre of fuel is tax, so the high mileage user is already paying through the nose for the privilege of using the roads, and your argument is that we should be paying perhaps another 5 or 10p? per litre.
Fair fuel U.K. Sponsored a fuel cost survey which showed that each 1p increase in the cost of fuel cost hundreds of jobs (which is why they were able to persuade the government not to apply the promised fuel price increases for the past six years) and contributes to inflation.
There is also the argument, that even though I don't personally use them very much, I do still need the good? roads whenever the whim takes me to take the 260 out of the garage.

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17th December 2016, 16:22	#1
RayDar Regular poster Rover 75 Tourer CDt Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: CREWKERNE Posts: 40 Thanks: 3 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Vehicle Excise Duty Refunds. Sold my 75 on the 9th sent off V5 info on 10th & got acknowledgement on 17th that I am no longer the registered owner. Quite speedy for the DVLA. Why then do they warn you that the refund may not be paid for 4 to 6 weeks! Iam due 11 months refund and I would prefer it in my Bank account rather than have it residiing with the Treasury! Another gripe; having paid a full amount of VED( £270) and then maybe only travelling say2/3k miles in a year in my 75 which had been a "hobby" car, I for one would like to see VED transfered to a tax on fuel; that way nobody would be able to get away with not paying and those that travel high mileages 20/30k per annum thus putting more wear our roads would pay a fair share of the cost of their maintenance - maybe?

17th December 2016, 16:26	#2
Rooney Suspended MG ZT 135+ Rover 75 CDTi Tourer, 75 2.5 V6 Saloon Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: County Antrim Posts: 2,027 Thanks: 835 Thanked 882 Times in 557 Posts	They warn you it may take that long because they like to drag their heels. I honestly think everybody should pay by direct debit to avoid just this situation. They're scammers anyway - if you sell a car they don't issue a refund for a part month, but they charge the new owner for a full month for the same part month, meaning they get two months duty for that car for that particular month. Nobody but the government would get away with that sort of pointy stick policy.

17th December 2016, 16:52	#3
macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,929 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	more important when selling a car, is tell your insurance company as soon as its sold. if you don't and there is an accident you can end up well and truly in the mire macafee2

17th December 2016, 21:28	#4
steve-45 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon CDTi Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Belvedere Posts: 4,076 Thanks: 108 Thanked 1,089 Times in 774 Posts	And if you do tell the insurance company and don't then put the car on SORN or send in the ownership transfer slip they will send you a letter threatening to fine you for having a car taxed but not insured.

18th December 2016, 16:57	#7
Rooney Suspended MG ZT 135+ Rover 75 CDTi Tourer, 75 2.5 V6 Saloon Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: County Antrim Posts: 2,027 Thanks: 835 Thanked 882 Times in 557 Posts	Yep, but you're paying for the convenience of paying in installments, that's reasonable considering it does generate a wee bit of paperwork. Works out about £9.25 a year more for a 75 - cheap enough to make it worthwhile imho.

18th December 2016, 21:32	#8
anddyy Avid contributor mg zt 180+ Join Date: May 2015 Location: blackpool Posts: 182 Thanks: 15 Thanked 38 Times in 34 Posts	The direct debit works out cheaper than if you were to buy 6 months at a time, it's 10% for it 6 months, so 5% for the direct debit i thinks fair.