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Old 30th March 2024, 21:11   #1
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Default Tyre wear on EVs

Just read an article on tyre wear on the ubiquitous EVs. Evidently, they can burn tyres out in around 6,000 miles. So, Goodyear have started making tyres just for EVs. Prices are like the EVs themselves, very dear. Goodyear make the Electric tyre at a price of around 200 dollars. Seems we are learning a bit more about EVs and how they are going to help in combating the ‘global warming’ crisis. It’s all a joke, and the lemmings are falling for it hook line and sinker.
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Old 31st March 2024, 07:59   #2
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Anyone remember the quote from the late, great Colin Chapman...

"Simplify then add lightness."

And what we "we" doing?.....
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Old 31st March 2024, 08:59   #3
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The result of a heavy battery and overuse of the rapid acceleration that is available.
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Old 31st March 2024, 09:40   #4
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We are all able to make our own choices. It's the half-truths and downright lies that irk me, all in the interests of supposedly 'saving the planet'. The money men thinking that all the people can be fooled all the time is a concern.

The uptake is proving to be, well, hesitant to say the least. It's a racket, but then this particular aspect of 'global warming' is another product of the motor trade after all. The fluctuating global temperature has been so for millions of years, how vain can we get? Doesn't anybody wonder why the 'pothole' phenomenon on such a scale is such a recent thing?
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The showing off to neighbours seem to be the main driving force behind purchases. The financial rewards and practical downsides over buying I.C.E is virtually non existent . Im sure depreciation alone, will not cover the gains of low emmisions charges made in the capitol and other large cities. Let them get on with it ...
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Just read an article on tyre wear on the ubiquitous EVs. Evidently, they can burn tyres out in around 6,000 miles. So, Goodyear have started making tyres just for EVs. Prices are like the EVs themselves, very dear. Goodyear make the Electric tyre at a price of around 200 dollars. Seems we are learning a bit more about EVs and how they are going to help in combating the ‘global warming’ crisis. It’s all a joke, and the lemmings are falling for it hook line and sinker.

David, your numbers relate to top-end EVs that have V8 and upwards levels of performance - sub-5s 0 to 60 times and instant 600Nm+ of torque - and the drivers persistently using that performance. The 6k mile tyre replacement interval is similar to many petrol/diesel cars of equivalent performance. Try replacing the tyres on a Jaguar 3.0D XFS or an XFRS 5.0 Supercharged V8 or an equivalent German car and you will find that quality tyres for this level of performance are not cheap and represent a significant part of the overall maintenance cost. The 400 BHP I-pace's performance is similar to the XFR-S and most I-Pace drivers report 20k+ miles between tyre changes on the dedicated forums.

Articles by epyx and Fleetnews say that over a large number of fleet vehicles, EV tyres on average last 6000 miles less than ICE cars - 18k miles vs 24k miles. For the average private user, this will make little to no pracical difference because tyres are often replaced due to age, cracking etc. than due to mileage related wear.

EVs do not require annual oil changes and on average the brake discs/pads last three times as many miles as on ICE cars.

In my experience, EV buyers so far have been early adopters and such individuals tend to be quite intelligent people who do a lot of research and analysis before committing - this is my opinion of all the EV buyers that I know which is quite a few.

Of course everyone can have their own opinions, based on various personal characteristics, outlooks and beliefs, but usually the most informative and often the only useful opinions come from those who operate the types of vehicles in question and are therefore based on first-hand experience.
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The showing off to neighbours seem to be the main driving force behind purchases. The financial rewards and practical downsides over buying I.C.E is virtually non existent . Im sure depreciation alone, will not cover the gains of low emmisions charges made in the capitol and other large cities. Let them get on with it ...

I assume you mean upsides, in which case most people who own an EV would disagree with the highlighted point.
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Old 31st March 2024, 13:13   #8
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That's probably true of the Jonny speed pants brigade but at my last service shortly before I sold the Gen 1 MG ZS EV it still had 5mm & above of tread depth after 3 1/2 years. The rotor discs & brake pads had virtually zero wear on them thanks to the regen.


I never used the sports mode on that car or have used it on this Gen 2 Trophy MG ZS EV, It's torquey enough without any sports mode for me, I'm not really interested in 0-60 times as the relaxing silent virtually one pedal driving is perfect for me.
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Tyre wear on EV’s can be accelerated by heavy acceleration as the electric motor will deliver maximum torque instantly. But, if you drive a ‘fast’ ice car quickly the same will happen. On the plus side the money saved on brakes due to regen braking will pay for the new tyres
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It's a pleasure to see a few members present a balanced and genuine knowledge based view of EVs.

For anyone genuinely interested in tyre and brake wear on EVs vs ICE, see:

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/electric...an-petrol-and/
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