covid and impact on education

[macafee2]

I wonder how education and knowledge from missed learning will be effected by covid.
Will children from wealthy homes do better then children from "poor" families and if so why? Does wealth and education of parents go hand in hand?

Could it be there just is not enough money after basic bills are paid to afford a pc or is there any spend that is not needed leading to lack of funds for a pc?

I am so glad by children are beyond the university age but if you have children below university leave age and in education how is their education going?


macafee2

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I was thinking the same today after I heard the announcements. Part of the problem in some cases is peoples priorities. I have customers who claim poverty but always have enough for a packet of fags every day and a new tattoo if so desired.

When my children were growing up I would have gone hungry if it helped but luckily we always seemed to be OK but it was close on some occasions.

If these families who need a laptop to help with there children's education I am sure one could be sourced even if it was used or borrowed. There are used laptops on Ebay for under £100

[torque2me]

Originally Posted by macafee2

I wonder how education and knowledge from missed learning will be effected by covid.
Will children from wealthy homes do better then children from "poor" families and if so why? Does wealth and education of parents go hand in hand?

macafee2

Money does matter. A private school will not willingly employ a Marxist teacher who wants to stay at home/go on additional holidays whilst receiving 100% of his public funded salary. Unless specifically told to by the govt. private schools have provided more classroom time than the state schools. Private schools have also provided a far higher standard of "on-line" learning that state ones.

Have heard of too many state run school failings for the stories not to have truth in them. So in answer to your posed question.....Private school pupils will be years ahead of state school ones and they will thrive and capture whatever jobs market availability there will be (I'm not including the state school genius or driven pupil - I think they will still be around for them to be pointed out for state school schooling success).

Kev

[Simondi]

Originally Posted by torque2me

Money does matter. A private school will not willingly employ a Marxist teacher who wants to stay at home/go on additional holidays whilst receiving 100% of his public funded salary.

Kev

I must tell my daughter who is maths teacher in a state school in Yorkshire that she has additional time off to go on holiday. It will play havoc with all online lessons she's doing, the phone calls to and from pupils along with the emails from other pupils. Not all within the working day of course but also long into the evenings.
She's not a Marxist sofar as I know but I'm pleased to say she is a fully paid up trade union member.
All the teachers I know are working, supporting as many pupils as they are able.

[marinabrian]

Originally Posted by Simondi

I must tell my daughter who is maths teacher in a state school in Yorkshire that she has additional time off to go on holiday. It will play havoc with all online lessons she's doing, the phone calls to and from pupils along with the emails from other pupils. Not all within the working day of course but also long into the evenings.
She's not a Marxist sofar as I know but I'm pleased to say she is a fully paid up trade union member.
All the teachers I know are working, supporting as many pupils as they are able.

I think Kev might have been referring to this type of activity ...........THIS or indeed THIS

The similarities between the two articles, and parallels drawn show that any action taken with a thirty year intervening period does not appear to have been successful in the case of teachers in the capital.

I'm would have though that neither my sister or brother in law are motivated by these types of radical activities, and that people who suspect teachers have an "easy time" at the moment, are fairly blinkered to the reality of life.

Brian

[grivas]

Originally Posted by Simondi

I must tell my daughter who is maths teacher in a state school in Yorkshire that she has additional time off to go on holiday. It will play havoc with all online lessons she's doing, the phone calls to and from pupils along with the emails from other pupils. Not all within the working day of course but also long into the evenings.
She's not a Marxist sofar as I know but I'm pleased to say she is a fully paid up trade union member.
All the teachers I know are working, supporting as many pupils as they are able.

I have two daughters both teachers, and I can fully concur with all you say, their workload has increased exponentially since the Covid-19 disaster and are daily putting their health at risk whilst doing their jobs.

Just remember, the reason we find ourselves in this position simply put, the UK government has made a mess of handling the pandemic, from chaotic disorganisation, mixed messages, ordering the wrong PPE, relaxing lockdown at the wrong time, not listening to those who actually know what they are talking about, all I can say is thank God for the resilience of the great NHS staff, and the scientists who understand the problem.

[macafee2]

Originally Posted by grivas

I have two daughters both teachers, and I can fully concur with all you say, their workload has increased exponentially since the Covid-19 disaster and are daily putting their health at risk whilst doing their jobs.

Just remember, the reason we find ourselves in this position simply put, the UK government has made a mess of handling the pandemic, from chaotic disorganisation, mixed messages, ordering the wrong PPE, relaxing lockdown at the wrong time, not listening to those who actually know what they are talking about, all I can say is thank God for the resilience of the great NHS staff, and the scientists who understand the problem.

Thank goodness it is the fault of the Government, I thought it was people mixing that caused the spread, phew, now I can go out without my mask and mix with others. Touch of sarcasm, yes! I don't say Government has got it all right but neither do I think it is all their fault. It is no one group's fault, it is a combination of mistakes. People are quick to blame government but not ourselves, the public.

Where I have been working, "half" the staff were not wearing masks in the mess room. Management told us that as people were not wearing masks and those that were wearing masks were in the mess room with those that were not, the number of staff in the mini busses was to increase as no one seemed bothered about catching covid. That would not be governments fault but down to us the public if covid spread amongst the staff.

macafee2

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These aren't marina Brian's words but I totally think he's right .
Why are we vaccinating residents of car homes first .
We should keep them safe as they are now . Vaccines for NHS staff first then roll it out to anyone that needs to work then work upto the retired . I'm sorry if I have used anyone and I didn't mean to it's not a political thing . And I don't want to upset anyone in their retirement . Just keep them safe but get the country back to work first I don like getting on a soap box but some things need saying .

[torque2me]

Originally Posted by Simondi

I must tell my daughter who is maths teacher in a state school in Yorkshire that she has additional time off to go on holiday. It will play havoc with all online lessons she's doing, the phone calls to and from pupils along with the emails from other pupils. Not all within the working day of course but also long into the evenings.
She's not a Marxist sofar as I know but I'm pleased to say she is a fully paid up trade union member.
All the teachers I know are working, supporting as many pupils as they are able.

Somebody must have been going to Bournemouth. Never heard in any interview I have seen whereby the teaching unions have mentioned the importance of pupils being in the classroom.

o.k. for the binman to croak, after emptying the bin. o.k. for power station worker to keel over as long the green button was pressed etc., etc. There have been some teachers who have continued to work with key worker and disadvantaged children. I don't know if the teachers rotate or not but the issue here, as stated by the unions, is safety. What they choose to ignore is the huge numbers of people who are key and essential workers. I myself work in a facility which we have to work within two meters of each other. So, I have chanced my arm (as have NHS front-line staff) and ignored my own safety and wellbeing for the sake of the many who are sick.

Kev

[macafee2]

Originally Posted by torque2me

Somebody must have been going to Bournemouth. Never heard in any interview I have seen whereby the teaching unions have mentioned the importance of pupils being in the classroom.

o.k. for the binman to croak, after emptying the bin. o.k. for power station worker to keel over as long the green button was pressed etc., etc. There have been some teachers who have continued to work with key worker and disadvantaged children. I don't know if the teachers rotate or not but the issue here, as stated by the unions, is safety. What they choose to ignore is the huge numbers of people who are key and essential workers. I myself work in a facility which we have to work within two meters of each other. So, I have chanced my arm (as have NHS front-line staff) and ignored my own safety and wellbeing for the sake of the many who are sick.

Kev

The list of who should be first in line is never ending, these industries are what keeps the country going, electric, water, gas, telecommunications, food, waste, imports, oil, NHS, police, fire, motor, public transport, haulage/transport are just a few.

macafee2