Staring issue

alphaeagle · 24th April 2020, 20:46

So today I took the Rover for a spin...went to shops...started car went to a other shop. Started car, got home couple of hours later...went out to car and she would not start....just turning over.....
It's a diesel cdti....any ideas I could look at...
Will call AA in the morning.....
She was running with any issues...

trikey · 24th April 2020, 20:52

Check the fuel pumps are running.
Crank sensor
Injector leakback.

MarkS · 24th April 2020, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphaeagle

So today I took the Rover for a spin...went to shops...started car went to a other shop. Started car, got home couple of hours later...went out to car and she would not start....just turning over.....
It's a diesel cdti....any ideas I could look at...
Will call AA in the morning.....
She was running with any issues...

https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...ad.php?t=22402

OR

https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...0&postcount=23

Mike Noc · 25th April 2020, 08:44

Have you got more than a quarter of a tank of fuel onboard? If not then chances are the in tank fuel pump has failed if you have the twin LP pump system.

You may need to put a couple of 5 litre cans in to get going again, then keep it topped up until you get the ITP replaced.

If the under bonnet pump isn't running try tapping it a couple of times. If it starts then time for a replacement pump.

If both LP pumps are running then could be a failing cam sensor, or as mentioned, injector leakback, and if they aren't running then a plenum check to see if the ECM has gone for a swim will be worth doing.

.

alphaeagle · 25th April 2020, 13:36

Ok so I tested this morning to see if se would start...
No joy...
I could here the fuel pump on the tank priming, lasted about 30 seconds. I then tested the the fuel pump in the engine bay....it to was priming as well.

Still no joy on the start front......

So I connected the laptop using Toaf, and checked the engine for any errors...I will post them up shortly....
Found some errors on fuel pressure....and glow plug.
Cleared out the errors and tried again...she started first turn....
I will try her again shortly..And will drop some fuel in her as she has less then a quarter of a tank.

Thanks guys for all you help....

You are the best....

COLVERT · 25th April 2020, 20:07

Always keep the tank above quarter full.

Forget about the glow plugs unless it's very, very cold weather.

T-Cut · 25th April 2020, 21:10

Staring issue
I get that a lot when mine won't start.

TC

alphaeagle · 28th April 2020, 16:04

Ok so last night would not start again...
So after checking the fuel tank which was purring away like a kitten..I checked the pump under the bonnet...not a thing..gave it a tap and it started to work...so it looks like it's on the way out.....

Arctic · 29th April 2020, 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphaeagle

Ok so last night would not start again...
So after checking the fuel tank which was purring away like a kitten..I checked the pump under the bonnet...not a thing..gave it a tap and it started to work...so it looks like it's on the way out.....

Sounds like it is sticking and coming to the end of its life, only replace with a genuine pierburg one, after market ones will fail very quickly.

You may get a genuine good used one if you ask about for a lot less than any after market UBP.

alphaeagle · 29th April 2020, 20:36

Have a guy over here in Ireland that had one..

24th April 2020, 20:46	#1
alphaeagle Avid contributor Rover 75 Saloon CDTi, MG ZT CDTi Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Portarlington Posts: 135 Thanks: 66 Thanked 25 Times in 19 Posts	Staring issue So today I took the Rover for a spin...went to shops...started car went to a other shop. Started car, got home couple of hours later...went out to car and she would not start....just turning over..... It's a diesel cdti....any ideas I could look at... Will call AA in the morning..... She was running with any issues... __________________ Working on: Rover 75 CDTi Copperleaf Today is just yesterdays tomorrow..... Last edited by alphaeagle; 24th April 2020 at 20:56..

24th April 2020, 20:52	#2
trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,773 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	Check the fuel pumps are running. Crank sensor Injector leakback. __________________ Lest we forget..

25th April 2020, 08:44	#4
Mike Noc This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Manual Connoisseur SE, Rover 75 CDT Automatic Connoisseur SE & a Freelander Td4. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,551 Thanks: 3,470 Thanked 3,119 Times in 2,247 Posts	Have you got more than a quarter of a tank of fuel onboard? If not then chances are the in tank fuel pump has failed if you have the twin LP pump system. You may need to put a couple of 5 litre cans in to get going again, then keep it topped up until you get the ITP replaced. If the under bonnet pump isn't running try tapping it a couple of times. If it starts then time for a replacement pump. If both LP pumps are running then could be a failing cam sensor, or as mentioned, injector leakback, and if they aren't running then a plenum check to see if the ECM has gone for a swim will be worth doing. . Last edited by Mike Noc; 25th April 2020 at 08:50..

25th April 2020, 13:36	#5
alphaeagle Avid contributor Rover 75 Saloon CDTi, MG ZT CDTi Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Portarlington Posts: 135 Thanks: 66 Thanked 25 Times in 19 Posts	Ok so I tested this morning to see if se would start... No joy... I could here the fuel pump on the tank priming, lasted about 30 seconds. I then tested the the fuel pump in the engine bay....it to was priming as well. Still no joy on the start front...... So I connected the laptop using Toaf, and checked the engine for any errors...I will post them up shortly.... Found some errors on fuel pressure....and glow plug. Cleared out the errors and tried again...she started first turn.... I will try her again shortly..And will drop some fuel in her as she has less then a quarter of a tank. Thanks guys for all you help.... You are the best.... __________________ Working on: Rover 75 CDTi Copperleaf Today is just yesterdays tomorrow..... Last edited by alphaeagle; 25th April 2020 at 14:25..

28th April 2020, 16:04	#8
alphaeagle Avid contributor Rover 75 Saloon CDTi, MG ZT CDTi Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Portarlington Posts: 135 Thanks: 66 Thanked 25 Times in 19 Posts	Ok so last night would not start again... So after checking the fuel tank which was purring away like a kitten..I checked the pump under the bonnet...not a thing..gave it a tap and it started to work...so it looks like it's on the way out..... __________________ Working on: Rover 75 CDTi Copperleaf Today is just yesterdays tomorrow.....

25th April 2020, 20:07	#6
COLVERT This is my second home R75 Saloon. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: France/or Devon. Posts: 14,003 Thanks: 3,851 Thanked 2,167 Times in 1,816 Posts	Always keep the tank above quarter full. Forget about the glow plugs unless it's very, very cold weather.

25th April 2020, 21:10	#7
T-Cut This is my second home Rover75 and Mreg Corsa. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sumweer onat mote o'dust (Sagin) Posts: 21,753 Thanks: 341 Thanked 3,660 Times in 2,924 Posts	Staring issue I get that a lot when mine won't start. TC

29th April 2020, 20:36	#10
alphaeagle Avid contributor Rover 75 Saloon CDTi, MG ZT CDTi Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Portarlington Posts: 135 Thanks: 66 Thanked 25 Times in 19 Posts	Have a guy over here in Ireland that had one.. __________________ Working on: Rover 75 CDTi Copperleaf Today is just yesterdays tomorrow.....