Rover 75 T estate 2003 Back exhaust box problem

bilsan330 · 17th June 2017, 08:31

Hi Guys..I have not been on here for a while so I hope every body is happy out there in Rover land. Here a couple of questions if you can help me today.

I am driving to Germany in a couple of weeks but I have noticed the bafflers in the back exhuast box is rattling...so I took it to my local Kwik Fit centre they told me that the join on the pipe that connects to the back box is rusting away and could eventually break off. There is no exhaust leaks at this time. and it has a new MOT.

Two questions: I was unable to see because the jobs worth at Kwik Fit would not let me inspect it. What would happen if it breaks off on my trip would the pipe fall to the floor or could it in an emergency hang there and get me home. I could not see if there are any brackets holding it up.

I need to replace the back box at some stage anyway. hopefully when I get back.

Any exhaust centres you can recommend in the London Middlesex area....As I dont trust Kwik Fit they said they need to get special order parts.

Thanks

Bill

Sprinter · 17th June 2017, 10:56

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Originally Posted by bilsan330

Hi Guys..I have not been on here for a while so I hope every body is happy out there in Rover land. Here a couple of questions if you can help me today.

I am driving to Germany in a couple of weeks but I have noticed the bafflers in the back exhuast box is rattling...so I took it to my local Kwik Fit centre they told me that the join on the pipe that connects to the back box is rusting away and could eventually break off. There is no exhaust leaks at this time. and it has a new MOT.

Two questions: I was unable to see because the jobs worth at Kwik Fit would not let me inspect it. What would happen if it breaks off on my trip would the pipe fall to the floor or could it in an emergency hang there and get me home. I could not see if there are any brackets holding it up.

I need to replace the back box at some stage anyway. hopefully when I get back.

Any exhaust centres you can recommend in the London Middlesex area....As I dont trust Kwik Fit they said they need to get special order parts.

Thanks

Bill

If Kwik fit says it's broke that tells me it's fine. Wouldn't let you inspect it? Totally amazing how they still get business.

On the tourer there is only one box at the rear with a long pipe all the way up to the cat. (at least on a diesel)

If you can hear it rattle then it rattles, if kwikfit say it's a death trap then it's good for another few years. I can't recommend anyone in your area but avoid all the chain\franchise businesses to get an honest opinion.

KWIL · 17th June 2017, 14:11

There is an intermediate box half way back to the engine on a KV6 petrol Tourer. If the pipe breaks from the back box, it will make more noise and may also bump about, but nothing should fall off, unless the mounts/mount frame is also shot. Rimmers do not seem to have back box - NLA.
Anyone found a supplier of good quality replacements? Must be quiet.

rovertone · 18th June 2017, 21:55

Probably for the longer term when you come to replace your back box look up Walker Tennaco, they have a help desk in Birmingham (can't help more I'm abroad a t mo with limited net access).

I thought that I was going to have to replace the back box on my 03 saloon and my local motor factors stocked Walkers which I had never heard of and they suggested I look them up. They seem to be quite well made and they offer a 3 year guarantee which says something.

My back box wasn't rattling but had a small hole where the pipe from the front enters and I made a plate out of thin sheet metal, cleaned up the box and used JB Weld to fix it to the box and fill any gaps, I have done one return and one one way trip to the Algarve and its still looking good.
Hope this helps.

planenut · 19th June 2017, 07:32

I've sent you a PM for someone that I use, as a customer.

Kwikfit have proved so many times that they are in the business to make money, that's logical, but they don't appear to have any concern for the customer. I used to say they were only good for exhausts, but that attitude is totally wrong.

planenut · 4th July 2017, 14:10

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Originally Posted by planenut

I've sent you a PM for someone that I use, as a customer.

Kwikfit have proved so many times that they are in the business to make money, that's logical, but they don't appear to have any concern for the customer. I used to say they were only good for exhausts, but that attitude is totally wrong.

All went quiet, but sadly, I now need centre and a rear, went to my local lads and they wanted £230 before the additionals - went to Kwikfit and whilst the guy was trying to come up with a price, the phone rang and he started doing the same for the caller, so I told him where to put the exhaust.

Oddly, I still need to get the exhaust done.

victorgte · 4th July 2017, 19:40

Having just replaced the back box on my V6 saloon, any rattle I was getting was the loose heat shield above it. Secured with 2 penny washers there is no more rattle. Try checking your heat shield just in case.

hogweed · 5th July 2017, 08:47

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Originally Posted by Sprinter

If Kwik fit says it's broke that tells me it's fine. Wouldn't let you inspect it? Totally amazing how they still get business.

Avoid KWIKFIT at ALL COSTS. I can't even talk about my experience with them without risking a stroke.

KWIL · 5th July 2017, 09:44

Some years ago I was forced to use a pattern part silencer on a Company provided Rover, it was awful, noisy and affected the cars performance. After much shouting at the Fleet Car supplier, they authorised the use of a Rover part, all troubles were solved, quiet again!!

planenut · 5th July 2017, 09:49

Having been under the beast again this morning I have reshaped and refitted the baffle type plate above the centre section, and have now ordered a rear section from Mr. Auto, at just under £60, similar pattern to the original.

Hopefully when that arrives, it'll only take an hour to change, including sawing the old clamp off which looks rusted totally to the pipe.

17th June 2017, 08:31	#1
bilsan330 Avid contributor Rover 75 Estate Join Date: May 2015 Location: Ickenham Posts: 128 Thanks: 17 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Rover 75 T estate 2003 Back exhaust box problem Hi Guys..I have not been on here for a while so I hope every body is happy out there in Rover land. Here a couple of questions if you can help me today. I am driving to Germany in a couple of weeks but I have noticed the bafflers in the back exhuast box is rattling...so I took it to my local Kwik Fit centre they told me that the join on the pipe that connects to the back box is rusting away and could eventually break off. There is no exhaust leaks at this time. and it has a new MOT. Two questions: I was unable to see because the jobs worth at Kwik Fit would not let me inspect it. What would happen if it breaks off on my trip would the pipe fall to the floor or could it in an emergency hang there and get me home. I could not see if there are any brackets holding it up. I need to replace the back box at some stage anyway. hopefully when I get back. Any exhaust centres you can recommend in the London Middlesex area....As I dont trust Kwik Fit they said they need to get special order parts. Thanks Bill

18th June 2017, 21:55	#4
rovertone Gets stuck in Rover 75 Conne SE Auto CDTi Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Redditch Posts: 669 Thanks: 185 Thanked 135 Times in 109 Posts	Probably for the longer term when you come to replace your back box look up Walker Tennaco, they have a help desk in Birmingham (can't help more I'm abroad a t mo with limited net access). I thought that I was going to have to replace the back box on my 03 saloon and my local motor factors stocked Walkers which I had never heard of and they suggested I look them up. They seem to be quite well made and they offer a 3 year guarantee which says something. My back box wasn't rattling but had a small hole where the pipe from the front enters and I made a plate out of thin sheet metal, cleaned up the box and used JB Weld to fix it to the box and fill any gaps, I have done one return and one one way trip to the Algarve and its still looking good. Hope this helps. __________________ 2003 Mk 1 Connie SE CDTi Auto Monogram Mirage 2/Sandstone Leather 511th CDTi out of 4744 produced 9th in Mirage 2 out of 17 produced Also 2004 Rover 25 SXi CVT, 1999 Megane Cabriolet and still missing my 800 Fastback.

4th July 2017, 19:40	#7
victorgte I really should get out more....... MGTF, MGZT, Range Rover Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Cheltenham Posts: 2,803 Thanks: 395 Thanked 633 Times in 446 Posts	Having just replaced the back box on my V6 saloon, any rattle I was getting was the loose heat shield above it. Secured with 2 penny washers there is no more rattle. Try checking your heat shield just in case. __________________ MG TF 135, MG ZT, Range Rover P38

17th June 2017, 14:11	#3
KWIL Precise Rover 75 Tourer 2.5KV6 Connoisseur SE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fleet Posts: 2,954 Thanks: 630 Thanked 617 Times in 480 Posts	There is an intermediate box half way back to the engine on a KV6 petrol Tourer. If the pipe breaks from the back box, it will make more noise and may also bump about, but nothing should fall off, unless the mounts/mount frame is also shot. Rimmers do not seem to have back box - NLA. Anyone found a supplier of good quality replacements? Must be quiet.

19th June 2017, 07:32	#5
planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,955 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	I've sent you a PM for someone that I use, as a customer. Kwikfit have proved so many times that they are in the business to make money, that's logical, but they don't appear to have any concern for the customer. I used to say they were only good for exhausts, but that attitude is totally wrong.

5th July 2017, 09:44	#9
KWIL Precise Rover 75 Tourer 2.5KV6 Connoisseur SE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fleet Posts: 2,954 Thanks: 630 Thanked 617 Times in 480 Posts	Some years ago I was forced to use a pattern part silencer on a Company provided Rover, it was awful, noisy and affected the cars performance. After much shouting at the Fleet Car supplier, they authorised the use of a Rover part, all troubles were solved, quiet again!!

5th July 2017, 09:49	#10
planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,955 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	Having been under the beast again this morning I have reshaped and refitted the baffle type plate above the centre section, and have now ordered a rear section from Mr. Auto, at just under £60, similar pattern to the original. Hopefully when that arrives, it'll only take an hour to change, including sawing the old clamp off which looks rusted totally to the pipe.