P and O

[MSS]

Originally Posted by wraymond

Ah well, chickens coming home to roost are not necessarily a sight some will want to see.

Grant Shapps is now swallowing his tonsils and threatening a change in the law to prevent companies like P&O from contravening UK employment law. Let’s see if it actually gets a Yes from Parliament (if it ever gets there).Who new?

Well some of us did although some of us didn’t. Apparently. Or did they? Just for the sake of argifying? He is to ‘propose’ a new law to close a gaping ‘loophole’ in existing legislation that allows foreign registered shipping to do their own thing.

Official: P&O Ferries is currently legally entitled to pay (their staff) on lower international rates as its ships are registered abroad. Now where have I heard that before I wonder.
Tongue in cheek or foot in mouth?


(Chapter and verse available on request).

Once again, indulgence in excessive spin to turn real news into fake news.

The actual news is as follows:

'The firm's boss admitted to MPs in a committee appearance last week that it knew it was breaking UK employment law by sacking almost 800 staff on March 17, without warning them or their unions.'

'A plan by P&O Ferries’ to replace 800 seafarers with agency workers paid below the UK’s minimum wage will be blocked by new legislation, the transport secretary has said.'

'On March 23, Prime Minister Johnson told Parliament: "We're going to make sure that everybody working in the UK exclusive economic zone gets paid the living wage and we'll do it as fast as we possibly can.'

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-03-28/...m-wage-workers

The planned change in law is to apply to non-UK agency workers who are seafarers and who do not have UK employment law protection at the moment. This is to stop people employed and working out of the UK and protected by UK employment laws - like the sacked 800 - from being replaced with non-UK agency workers paid below the minimum wage.

I'm sure the facts will not stop the few ardent supporters from issuing further 'likes' of support, but the right minded people will be able to understand.

[wraymond]

If you cannot see, or refuse to accept, the difference between what happened initially and the latest development of the need for legislation to 'plug the gaping hole' (the minister's words verbatim in parliament) in the existing law old chap then I respectfully withdraw from a moot argument.

[MSS]

Originally Posted by wraymond

...........I respectfully withdraw from a moot argument.

This is the most informing of your comments on this topic. I accept what you say.

[Borg Warner]

Would appear the battle lines have been drawn:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60913206

With two ferries stuck in port.

Oh dear.

[stevestrat]

Being reported today that P&O have been trying to get the newly employed agency workers to sign new contracts on even lower wages! RMT reported P&O to the Maritime and Coastguard Agency ensuring the workers retain their original wages. P&O has yet to comment.

[Borg Warner]

Originally Posted by stevestrat

Being reported today that P&O have been trying to get the newly employed agency workers to sign new contracts on even lower wages! RMT reported P&O to the Maritime and Coastguard Agency ensuring the workers retain their original wages. P&O has yet to comment.

As here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61209894

What an appalling company. Makes one hope they somehow sink without trace.

Well at least their owners.

[torque2me]

Originally Posted by Borg Warner

As here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61209894

What an appalling company. Makes one hope they somehow sink without trace.

Well at least their owners.

I might have heard that they are fully booked passenger wise on one of the news channels. Not sure of that possibility but one would have to have booked in advance or totally without empathy for fellow man/woman.

Kev