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Old 19th December 2009, 18:41   #31
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Anyway, I recall that someone got off a charge of using a mobile phone whilst parked with engine running as they said they were dictating notes for a meeting and were not making a call. Hmmm... not sure I'd try that one.
Over here even touching a mobile phone while the engine is running is an offence. So no excuses anyway.
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Old 19th December 2009, 19:58   #32
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There have been several in the Wolverhampton area this year alone.
Interesting, the RSGB even give legal guidance to keep in your glovebox to show to a cop if stopped. I hadn't checked for a while. Best get myself a headset not that I use it much these days...
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Old 19th December 2009, 20:09   #33
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Well what happend to the great in Great Britain or what ever they re-name it, all the copper had to say was, sir unfortunatly you cannot have the engine on while making a phone call. simple, if i had to carry every law this crackpot, parasitic, waste of space, goverment,i'll have to buy another ZT to put em in. hands up if you know all the laws ..............mmmmmmmmmm another ZT ?
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Old 19th December 2009, 20:49   #34
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Interesting, the RSGB even give legal guidance to keep in your glovebox to show to a cop if stopped. I hadn't checked for a while. Best get myself a headset not that I use it much these days...
Not prosecutions for having or using in isolation, rather, charges of careless driving aggravated by use of radio equipment.

Last one I dealt with, in August, the guy was scrabbling around and looking on his back seat for some code book or other whilst talking to a contact and drove into the back of a car stationary at traffic lights.

As to "legal guidance", if in the opinion of a Police officer, the driver's standard of driving fell below that expected of a reasonably competent driver, he or she would be reported for careless driving regardless of any aide memoire the driver might have and regardless of whether an accident occurred
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Old 22nd December 2009, 16:17   #35
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What I'd like to do is sue the police forces that take part in these "reality tv" "cops" programmes etc - there they are racing around whilst speaking to camera and even looking at and gesticulating ... how is that in any way different? and whilst they are meant to be engaged in "high intensity" activities ...

Ah, yes, but................... They've done a specialist drivers' course...........
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Old 22nd December 2009, 16:20   #36
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Ah, yes, but................... They've done a specialist drivers' course...........
Where? at RADA?
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Old 22nd December 2009, 16:24   #37
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The law also specifically targets mobile phones. Us radio hams and indeed taxis are free to carry on using our fist mic free of fear of prosecution - EXCEPT... the risk of a careless driving charge if doing it whilst driving. But AFAIK, there hasn't been a single prosecution of a radio ham.

Anyway, I recall that someone got off a charge of using a mobile phone whilst parked with engine running as they said they were dictating notes for a meeting and were not making a call. Hmmm... not sure I'd try that one.

Anyway, tis a stupid law. Careless driving would suffice for anyone eating, drinking, texting, phoning whilst driving. When stationary and parked (handbrake etc) what is the harm?


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Good defence, the offence is using a mobile telephone, not a dictating machine, as a surveyor I often park up to make my notes with the engine running, especially now, might get frost bite if I didn't....
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Old 22nd December 2009, 21:26   #38
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You need a Webasto Parking heater then like wot we've got
Seriously though I'm glad this thread has made you all aware of the crazy law & hopefully will have saved you some points & some dosh.

Now this last comment got "removed" last year........... wonder if it will now we all know what a silly Law this really is.


Let the Law see "as little as possible" going on inside your car would be my advice & get some Privacy Glass (especially the rear one)
Stay within the Law using your phone obviously & ensure the Tint level is within the Law too, but at least you can have privacy & keep the Law out of your face.
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Old 24th December 2009, 20:40   #39
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TAKE IGNITION KEYS OUT WHEN USING PHONE OR EATING IN YOUR CAR
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Old 31st December 2009, 11:21   #40
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Sorry, disagree, people have been prosecuted for drink driving when in their homes and the keys are within the property, therefore the law cannot be interpreted one way for drink driving and another for using a mobile.
That can't be right or we'd all be guilty each time we had a drink in the house. Possibly if the keys are in your pocket, it could be argued you are still "in charge" of the vehicle.

Its the government that create all these stupid laws. The police are under pressure, again from the government for "performance indicators", so if low for that month will find an easy target.

How about, if we are not in our cars and see a cop not wearing his belt etc, get a pic of hi & the reg of the car on your mobile, and report him to his inspector?

Also we must be aware that if we get "an itch" when driving not to scratch it if there's a cop about.
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