Borg and Beck clutch

madmatt · 17th January 2018, 11:08

Has anyone on here ever come across a Borg and Beck clutch with Borg and Beck on the centre of the friction plate and LUK markings on the friction material?
Thanks Matt

trikey · 17th January 2018, 11:27

Can’t say I have ever seen that!

EastPete · 17th January 2018, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmatt

Has anyone on here ever come across a Borg and Beck clutch with Borg and Beck on the centre of the friction plate and LUK markings on the friction material?
Thanks Matt

Yes - the centre friction plate in the Borg and Beck kits has an LUK marking on it, so I guess it is the same as the one in the LUK kits, but supplied with a B&B cover plate.

Pete

Devilish · 17th January 2018, 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmatt

Has anyone on here ever come across a Borg and Beck clutch with Borg and Beck on the centre of the friction plate and LUK markings on the friction material?
Thanks Matt

Show us a pic of the plate, nothing wrong with a LUK clutch, but if you bought B&B..........

madmatt · 17th January 2018, 21:24

John Armstrong · 17th January 2018, 21:48

B & B ceased trading a few years ago or so I was lead to believe.
The friction plate has 6 springs shock loading which is excellent. Some on the market have none and a lot have only 4.
Perhaps there's still some 'Assembly' stock still around? Yes, I had a new B & B assembly about 4 years ago and again, all is fine. Have just crossed my fingers.
Really, all looks fine
John

MSS · 18th January 2018, 07:39

A couple of year ago I read somewhere that the 75 clutch friction plate and slave sold under the B&B name were LUK parts. I was under the impression that B&B no longer manufacture clutches.

This no bad thing as my experience of LUK on CDTs has been excellent.

In fact, I don't buy anything other than LUK when it comes to clutches for our cars.

Addendum

B&B is now owned by Firstline and the following pages on the B&B website suggests that they have a test facility but not manufacturing.

http://www.borgandbeck.com/products/clutch/

http://www.borgandbeck.com/commercia...cle/cv-clutch/

EastPete · 18th January 2018, 08:25

Newly manufactured clutch and brake parts sold under the B&B brand are still being sold, presumably by Firstline. MG specialists are selling 'genuine B&B' brake and clutch parts for classics such as the MGB. Are these made by Firstline using the original B&B tooling, or just Firstline parts put in a B&B box ?

Pete

KWIL · 18th January 2018, 09:12

Borg & Beck are part of FIRSTLINE Group

Vossy · 18th January 2018, 10:34

LUK are a major supplier of clutches and other item to many car companies, while I was working I used to deliver truckloads of clutch parts from LUK in Sheffield to all over Europe, they were branded with the manufacturers own brand but all came from LUK in Sheffield, in my opinion a good brand given that they are fitted into new cars.

17th January 2018, 11:08	#1
madmatt Regular poster Connoisseur SE CDT Saloon Join Date: May 2013 Location: coventry Posts: 74 Thanks: 27 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Borg and Beck clutch Has anyone on here ever come across a Borg and Beck clutch with Borg and Beck on the centre of the friction plate and LUK markings on the friction material? Thanks Matt

17th January 2018, 11:27	#2
trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,769 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	Can’t say I have ever seen that! __________________ Lest we forget..

18th January 2018, 07:39	#7
MSS This is my second home Rover 75CDT, Jaguar XF-S 3.0V6, V'xhall Omega V6 Estate, Twintop 1.8VVT, Astra Estate and Corsa 1.2 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7,085 Thanks: 283 Thanked 624 Times in 440 Posts	A couple of year ago I read somewhere that the 75 clutch friction plate and slave sold under the B&B name were LUK parts. I was under the impression that B&B no longer manufacture clutches. This no bad thing as my experience of LUK on CDTs has been excellent. In fact, I don't buy anything other than LUK when it comes to clutches for our cars. Addendum B&B is now owned by Firstline and the following pages on the B&B website suggests that they have a test facility but not manufacturing. http://www.borgandbeck.com/products/clutch/ http://www.borgandbeck.com/commercia...cle/cv-clutch/ Last edited by MSS; 18th January 2018 at 08:04..

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17th January 2018, 21:48	#6
John Armstrong Avid contributor Rover 75 Diesel Saloon Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Doncaster Posts: 231 Thanks: 0 Thanked 31 Times in 28 Posts	B & B ceased trading a few years ago or so I was lead to believe. The friction plate has 6 springs shock loading which is excellent. Some on the market have none and a lot have only 4. Perhaps there's still some 'Assembly' stock still around? Yes, I had a new B & B assembly about 4 years ago and again, all is fine. Have just crossed my fingers. Really, all looks fine John

18th January 2018, 08:25	#8
EastPete Posted a thing or two Rover 75 CDTi Classic saloon, MGB GT, Skoda Yeti Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ramsey, Cambs Posts: 1,874 Thanks: 626 Thanked 635 Times in 430 Posts	Newly manufactured clutch and brake parts sold under the B&B brand are still being sold, presumably by Firstline. MG specialists are selling 'genuine B&B' brake and clutch parts for classics such as the MGB. Are these made by Firstline using the original B&B tooling, or just Firstline parts put in a B&B box ? Pete

18th January 2018, 09:12	#9
KWIL Precise Rover 75 Tourer 2.5KV6 Connoisseur SE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fleet Posts: 2,954 Thanks: 630 Thanked 617 Times in 480 Posts	Borg & Beck are part of FIRSTLINE Group

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Vossy Why? ... MG ZT+ Cdti Auto saloon. Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Blockeswich, South Staffs Posts: 1,549 Thanks: 173 Thanked 483 Times in 330 Posts	LUK are a major supplier of clutches and other item to many car companies, while I was working I used to deliver truckloads of clutch parts from LUK in Sheffield to all over Europe, they were branded with the manufacturers own brand but all came from LUK in Sheffield, in my opinion a good brand given that they are fitted into new cars.