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It's very apparent that there are no extenuating circumstances and no misunderstanding. She was a psychiatric nurse and fully aware of the power of suggestion. I believe, like others have done before her, she used her supposed skills to deliberately attempt to provoke a reaction that she would otherwise been unable to draw out. Unfortunately, as others with malice in mind have found, she failed.
Thinking she could say what she liked and rely on a defence of hiding behind a petty excuse she thought she could plead innocence by being funny. There seems no doubt she, as usual, was putting her training to use. I just hope those idiots who can't tell when they are being stupid don't fall for it.
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I am only asking as I said before, I havent been able to hear the comment nor the show.
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Hi Wes, I worked at the same hospital Jo Brand trained in. I had the same training she had, except I had more training in general nursing and obstetrics. With my insights, I think she was foolish in saying what she said about the battery acid. But she must be pooping herself, worrying if anything comes from what the police can find. She might get away with it. But she would be well versed in the games people play and how to take her comments to the edge. Her humour in that moment, some will admire, but others will make political capital from. Despite what she said to the Sky news reporter about free speech today, it's something she will not say again 'live'. Just my opinion.
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The only way there will be a bigger picture is if someone does it because they were told to by her! At that point it has nothing to do with her! It has everything to do with the tosspot nutter who threw it! How many times has she spoken of 'attacking' a husband or lover if he did something to irritate her, during a humourous monologue on a show (eg QI or Have I Got News for You etc)? Is that condoning domestic violence??? I despair if people genuinely believe her to be inciting violence of this kind! Perhaps I imagine her saying it the way I have always watched her on TV, naive, perhaps, or just despairing of the society we are now living in, where I cannot even comment on how pretty a lady's dress is without being accused of something untoward! When I first saw the Danny Baker picture mentioned earlier, I immediately thought exactly as he did when he explained why he did it - another animal to add to the performing zoo of the Royal Family. But then I am not racist (but I can see how unwise it was to post it!), nor and more importantly, I have not experienced any serious or concerning form or racism (does that make me naive?). Equally I havent experienced any form of an acid attack either, but have had a drink or two thrown over me (and an egg once) .
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The context is so different it's hard to identify it in such terms as 'inciting violence'. We need to be careful when using some terms that we don't water them down or its something that may be regretted. Not in this particular issue but in a wider sense. It should be reserved for those, I believe, related to terrorism.
I haven't heard the clip but I've read the text as printed from the link I put on. She seems to say immediately after, that she's only joking and no one should carry out what she said. I'm not sure what fallout you're thinking of. The only thing I've seen is a call for her to be sacked, but she's not employed by the BBC. You mean the police? If I had to bet they'll probably 'speak' to her. |
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Brand continued her comment by saying ''I’m not going to do it, it’s purely a fantasy''. Obviously Brand wouldn't do such a thing, but its the words and the thought behind what she said. Her remarks are far more serious than a simply joke Alan, fantasizing about throwing acid over a person, especially with the spate of recent attacks has left many sickened and horrified. No one should use violence against another person just because they hold different views than them, throwing any type of object or substance at someone is a violent act. Theresa May has said ''politicians should be able to go about their work and campaign without harassment, intimidation or abuse''. Jo Brands remarks, and with the BBC allowing such content to be broadcast is in fact normalising violence, its certainly nothing to joke about. These walkabouts politicians do have a serious safety aspect to them, even Trumps state visit brought out the hate mob, so you can see how dangerous such remarks can impact the safety of a person. |
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I am not condoning nor agreeing with actions. One drink and the egg were not meant for me, but one drink, from an ex. For me turning up to a bar with a lady friend , misunderstanding that she was with me. But my point was that these were violent acts , Using non lethal materials to make a point, as in the milkshake attacks. They are wrong, but the methods employed are obviously intentional and it was to those that incited the hatred (and even violence) in the first place were attacked.
To be even suggesting that a comedian on a comedy show, that has a tiny middle classed audience (and even with a disclaimer!!??) was inciting violence is a sad reflection on how sad and dependant our society has become. What happened to making ones own mind up, self control? What you are doing is comparing her to radicalised preachers of hate. Context!! Yes John, it does look like you are slipping into the snowflake beliefs. Sent from my SM-A600FN using Tapatalk
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