Putin, Russia and the West

[Borg Warner]

Some believe both France and their besties Germany, have a lot to answer for in this terrible mess:

https://www.epc.eu/en/Publications/T...-France~467134

[Borg Warner]

Bit of a concern:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share

[macafee2]

Originally Posted by Borg Warner

Bit of a concern:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share

which part?

macafee2

[Borg Warner]

Originally Posted by macafee2

which part?

macafee2

Timed at 16:55 headline says:


Russian media’s nuclear claims completely untrue - Downing Street

Direct link works when I click it?

[wraymond]

One can't help but wonder exactly how they know? And, if 'they' really do know, what else are 'they' not telling until they feel the need to?
He is a madman who is in complete control of his resources. How long before the also-rans have had enough.

[mileshawk56]

Ray, its not what they "know" or dont "know" because we live in an age of Bul-s--t anyway. Chris.S.

[wraymond]

I know Christopher. How does the proverb go? If their lips are moving...

[Borg Warner]

Seems the big old bear don't like to be poked:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...087151f7bb7944

Russia warns Britain of immediate 'proportional response' for 'provoking' Ukraine to attack
Russia’s defence ministry has warned of an immediate “proportional response” if Britain continues its “direct provocation” of Ukraine to strike targets in Russia, Reuters reports.

The ministry cited statements from the UK’s armed forces minister, James Heappey, that said Britain backs Ukrainian troops carrying out strikes in Russian territory. Speaking earlier today, Heappey said it was “not necessarily a problem” if Ukraine uses weapons donated by Britain.

Russia’s defence ministry said:

We would like to underline that London’s direct provocation of the Kiev regime into such actions, if such actions are carried out, will immediately lead to our proportional response.

As we have warned, the Russian Armed Forces are in round-the-clock readiness to launch retaliatory strikes with high-precision long-range weapons at decision-making centers in Kyiv.

The ministry added that if such Russian strikes were made, it would not necessarily be a problem if representatives of a certain Western country were located at those “decision-making centres” in Kyiv.

[MarkS]

Russian military deception, sometimes known as maskirovka ( lit. 'disguise'[1]), is a military doctrine developed from the start of the 20th century. The doctrine covers a broad range of measures for military deception, from camouflage to denial and deception.

Deceptive measures include concealment, imitation with decoys and dummies, manoeuvres intended to deceive, denial, and disinformation. The 1944 Soviet Military Encyclopedia refers to "means of securing combat operations and the daily activities of forces; a complexity of measures, directed to mislead the enemy regarding the presence and disposition of forces..."[2] Later versions of the doctrine also include strategic, political, and diplomatic means including manipulation of "the facts", situation, and perceptions to affect the media and opinion around the world, so as to achieve or facilitate tactical, strategic, national and international goals.[3]

The doctrine has also been put into practice in peacetime, with denial and deception operations in events such as the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Prague Spring, and the annexation of Crimea

The best (but not guaranteed) way to figure out what the Russians intend to do, is to see what their controlled press and TV are saying to the Russian public.

And at the moment, they are preparing the Russian public for a long summer war of attrition in Ukraine.

[macafee2]

This should have been expected
https://news.sky.com/story/russia-to...ubles-12599659

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