T4 on a Dell Latitude

vitesse · 5th June 2020, 16:15

Picked up T4 a while back but I just can’t get the software to install on the Dell C610 laptop. A complete novice when it comes to Windows but tried many times and failed, RDS 5.06 seems to install correctly as does Omitec Caps but then … and the final test reports 100s of file inconsistencies. Drivers issue? XP SP1 or SP2?
My son has what I imagine to be a Neo type friend, spends his life in darkness on a diet Red Bull supposed to be a Windows wizard but the machine and discs were returned to me today unsuccessfully installed.
Now wondering if there are any T4 owners with the same Dell laptop (original?) who might be able to help get what is possibly one of the last machines in Sweden working again?

Hopefully …

marinabrian · 5th June 2020, 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by vitesse

Picked up T4 a while back but I just can’t get the software to install on the Dell C610 laptop. A complete novice when it comes to Windows but tried many times and failed, RDS 5.06 seems to install correctly as does Omitec Caps but then … and the final test reports 100s of file inconsistencies. Drivers issue? XP SP1 or SP2?
My son has what I imagine to be a Neo type friend, spends his life in darkness on a diet Red Bull supposed to be a Windows wizard but the machine and discs were returned to me today unsuccessfully installed.
Now wondering if there are any T4 owners with the same Dell laptop (original?) who might be able to help get what is possibly one of the last machines in Sweden working again?

Hopefully …

The file system integrity test is nonsense, a carry over from the original RDS 3.01 used on TestBook™.

Here are the results from my own T4 which definitely works ok

In fact here it is connected to the Freelander™, just look at the dealer options on offer

..........

Are the LAN settings correct, and is it connecting to the interface? all questions that need to be answered.

Brian

vitesse · 5th June 2020, 17:12

Many thanks for your reply, especially the knowledge that the file system inconsistencies can be ignored as I had imagined that was crucial.

I think I checked the LAN settings previously, was that the one with a standard IP address? Please remind me. And how do I check it's connecting to the interface, is that part of the Integrity tests? I have noticed that the handheld device is active.

Your help is appreciated.

Mike

marinabrian · 5th June 2020, 17:52

The IP address for the network adaptor must be set at 192.168.001.002 and the speed set 10 MBS half duplex with line negotiation off.

If the network adaptor set to obtain an IP address automatically, it won't work, nor if the speed and duplex are set incorrectly.

The green LAN LED should be lit on the interface constantly, and the yellow LED flash when traffic is on the line

vitesse · 5th June 2020, 18:05

OK, I think you said earlier that the IP address was automatically assigned by the RDS disc (?) but I can check it's as per your post. And I gather I'll find the set speed 10 MBS with line negotiation off under network settings?

The laptop is in the spare room at the moment but I'll reconnect it to the T4 tomorrow and see if I can see any green (constant) or yellow lights (flashing) and report back.

Thanks again

vitesse · 6th June 2020, 10:05

Slowly getting there (I think) but now stuck - Brian says "line negotiation off" so I have a look around network settings but can't find anything that relates, ask Mr. Google but he just want to show me lots of ads.

Anyone who can advise please?

Regards

Update. No vehicles found on DST0006V but when I used an older copy (DST0004) I have the full choice of vehicles. But no LAN lights, not green or yellow, and when I try to connect to the car it says reports a problem with the red lead, tells me to try the blue one and then says there’s a problem with the long patch lead. Luckily I have TOAF for my cars but I would have liked to be able to help local owners with other variants.

VikingMG · 6th June 2020, 13:56

Maybe someone who know the settings can do a TeamViewer with you and fix it?

vitesse · 6th June 2020, 15:11

Thanks for the input. I used Team Viewer many years ago when we did the remote T4 project, very easy. I asked Brian about the same but he has never used it. Just hoping someone more at home with Windows than me can figure things out, or perhaps has the same kind of Dell (original computer?).

At the moment I'm lost. But the fact that the LAN diodes don't give any indication of a connection seems to point to a network issue.

Regards from a very wet Sweden

marinabrian · 6th June 2020, 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by vitesse

Slowly getting there (I think) but now stuck - Brian says "line negotiation off" so I have a look around network settings but can't find anything that relates, ask Mr. Google but he just want to show me lots of ads.

Anyone who can advise please?

Regards

Update. No vehicles found on DST0006V but when I used an older copy (DST0004) I have the full choice of vehicles. But no LAN lights, not green or yellow, and when I try to connect to the car it says reports a problem with the red lead, tells me to try the blue one and then says there’s a problem with the long patch lead. Luckily I have TOAF for my cars but I would have liked to be able to help local owners with other variants.

The lead check is the first failure point when the interface isn't talking to the PC,

So no green light, is the interface powered up with the mains lead? it the LAN lead OK? and another thing to check.......there is a small hole next to the LAN socket on the interface.

Inside this hole is a crossover switch for the LAN, and you might wish to toggle the position, a jewellers screwdriver or similar will be needed.

Keep going, you will get there

Brian

vitesse · 6th June 2020, 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by marinabrian

The lead check is the first failure point when the interface isn't talking to the PC,

So no green light, is the interface powered up with the mains lead? it the LAN lead OK? and another thing to check.......there is a small hole next to the LAN socket on the interface.

Inside this hole is a crossover switch for the LAN, and you might wish to toggle the position, a jewellers screwdriver or similar will be needed.

Keep going, you will get there

Brian

I've checked the actual LAN lead first by substituting it for another, and then tested the original lead on my Mac Mini and it checked out fine. Not sure what you mean by the interface, can't see any power indicator on the unit (name?) immediately below the laptop but the handheld tester bay has two green led lights which are illuminated.

Can I forget the line negotiation or is this still a hurdle?

Sorry for the all the questions, wish the ferry was still running to Newcastle!

Mike

ps think I found the toggle button - labelled MDIX - will try again tomorrow

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vitesse I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Gävle Posts: 2,528 Thanks: 395 Thanked 823 Times in 652 Posts	T4 on a Dell Latitude Picked up T4 a while back but I just can’t get the software to install on the Dell C610 laptop. A complete novice when it comes to Windows but tried many times and failed, RDS 5.06 seems to install correctly as does Omitec Caps but then … and the final test reports 100s of file inconsistencies. Drivers issue? XP SP1 or SP2? My son has what I imagine to be a Neo type friend, spends his life in darkness on a diet Red Bull supposed to be a Windows wizard but the machine and discs were returned to me today unsuccessfully installed. Now wondering if there are any T4 owners with the same Dell laptop (original?) who might be able to help get what is possibly one of the last machines in Sweden working again? Hopefully …

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vitesse I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Gävle Posts: 2,528 Thanks: 395 Thanked 823 Times in 652 Posts	Slowly getting there (I think) but now stuck - Brian says "line negotiation off" so I have a look around network settings but can't find anything that relates, ask Mr. Google but he just want to show me lots of ads. Anyone who can advise please? Regards Update. No vehicles found on DST0006V but when I used an older copy (DST0004) I have the full choice of vehicles. But no LAN lights, not green or yellow, and when I try to connect to the car it says reports a problem with the red lead, tells me to try the blue one and then says there’s a problem with the long patch lead. Luckily I have TOAF for my cars but I would have liked to be able to help local owners with other variants. Last edited by vitesse; 6th June 2020 at 11:55.. Reason: More information

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5th June 2020, 17:12	#3
vitesse I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Gävle Posts: 2,528 Thanks: 395 Thanked 823 Times in 652 Posts	Many thanks for your reply, especially the knowledge that the file system inconsistencies can be ignored as I had imagined that was crucial. I think I checked the LAN settings previously, was that the one with a standard IP address? Please remind me. And how do I check it's connecting to the interface, is that part of the Integrity tests? I have noticed that the handheld device is active. Your help is appreciated. Mike

5th June 2020, 17:52	#4
marinabrian MG ZT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 20,151 Thanks: 3,565 Thanked 10,837 Times in 5,718 Posts	The IP address for the network adaptor must be set at 192.168.001.002 and the speed set 10 MBS half duplex with line negotiation off. If the network adaptor set to obtain an IP address automatically, it won't work, nor if the speed and duplex are set incorrectly. The green LAN LED should be lit on the interface constantly, and the yellow LED flash when traffic is on the line

5th June 2020, 18:05	#5
vitesse I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Gävle Posts: 2,528 Thanks: 395 Thanked 823 Times in 652 Posts	OK, I think you said earlier that the IP address was automatically assigned by the RDS disc (?) but I can check it's as per your post. And I gather I'll find the set speed 10 MBS with line negotiation off under network settings? The laptop is in the spare room at the moment but I'll reconnect it to the T4 tomorrow and see if I can see any green (constant) or yellow lights (flashing) and report back. Thanks again

6th June 2020, 15:11	#8
vitesse I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Gävle Posts: 2,528 Thanks: 395 Thanked 823 Times in 652 Posts	Thanks for the input. I used Team Viewer many years ago when we did the remote T4 project, very easy. I asked Brian about the same but he has never used it. Just hoping someone more at home with Windows than me can figure things out, or perhaps has the same kind of Dell (original computer?). At the moment I'm lost. But the fact that the LAN diodes don't give any indication of a connection seems to point to a network issue. Regards from a very wet Sweden