Ebay

tantallon · 29th August 2017, 18:21

I have now entered into an auction situation on Ebay .On both occasions I was the highest bidder .Neither listing had Buy it now prices ,Neither were classified Ads On both occasions the items were ended early and sold .What is the legality of this?.When a bid is placed you enter into a contract .Why are sellers not held to task.Your opinions please Ladies and Gentlemen

madeupname · 29th August 2017, 18:39

Hi Howard. I have, in the past, sold items on ebay. I like the idea of an auction so I never put a buy it now price on it. But the number of people who contact me making offers if I sell to then is legion. If I'd taken them up on their offer I would have had to end the auction early. I'm sure that people can sell anything they want to privately and delist items.
I have also bought stuff off ebay and had refunds because they had sold out or were mistaken about how many they had to offer.
Swings and roundabouts I'm afraid, but there are millions of people around the world using ebay, You can probably find alternatives. But yes, if you buy something you should get it.

djb222 · 29th August 2017, 18:40

You are correct once a bid has been received on an item, you are not allowed to end the auction because someone has made an offer. I suspect that an offer was made and it is probably recorded in their messages. eBay look upon this very badly, they have software that looks for phone numbers etc in messages to try and stop this. If you complain to eBay they will look into it.

I have been approached several times with offers after bids have been made, I always refuse.

eBay is heavily biased towards the buyer quite often unfairly, so complain.

I recently sold a pair of new Boss jeans with labels, the buyer then complained they were fake. I refused to accept the return as they were genuine. I complained to ebay about a false claim, they said I had a valid case but still found in favour of the buyer, how bad is that. Another phone call and they agreed I was correct as I pointed out that in messages from the buyer he agreed they were genuine but didn't fit. As it happens I still have to give a refund ( I'll get the jeans back plus a refund from eBay of the refund I had to give the buyer) CRAZZZZZY.

STUBIE · 29th August 2017, 19:00

You can end an auction and sell to the highest bidder.

The problem with ebay is that buyers can bid and win an auction then not pay for it so why would you not sell to someone who is there offering to purchase.

Stubs

djb222 · 29th August 2017, 19:16

Because if someone has already made a bid, it's unfair, dishonest and against eBay rules...

STUBIE · 29th August 2017, 20:11

So is not paying for an item you have won but ebay does not force the buyer. In fact these days they dont even get negative feedback.

Stubs

victorgte · 29th August 2017, 20:13

I find it difficult to understand why items reach a certain figure, end and are then resisted a few days later. I got a bid cancelled by a seller who then apparently sold it for £10 more than I bid but then relisted again! What was wrong with my bid? Not enough? Auction is all about a bid winning. End of auction, not hang around until the price is high enough.

steve-45 · 29th August 2017, 20:22

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Originally Posted by victorgte

I find it difficult to understand why items reach a certain figure, end and are then resisted a few days later. I got a bid cancelled by a seller who then apparently sold it for £10 more than I bid but then relisted again! What was wrong with my bid? Not enough? Auction is all about a bid winning. End of auction, not hang around until the price is high enough.

I had the same sort of thing, I bid and won a laser printer - but the seller ignored my emails and refunded the paypal payment.

When he finally answered he claimed that he was very ill and unable to package anything up or even leave the house.

2 days he relisted the item with a higher starting price ......

vacuman · 29th August 2017, 20:34

Never understood why ebay doesn't run auctions like real auctions. The auction shouldn't end until there's been no fresh bids for, say 2 mins after the set end-time. That would stop all the last 5 second sniping and gives the seller the chance to get the best possible price.

madeupname · 29th August 2017, 20:46

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Originally Posted by vacuman

Never understood why ebay doesn't run auctions like real auctions. The auction shouldn't end until there's been no fresh bids for, say 2 mins after the set end-time. That would stop all the last 5 second sniping and gives the seller the chance to get the best possible price.

There's an American jewellery auction site that does that. It's called Bidz. Just remember any gold you buy will not be hallmarked, you have to do that yourself when it arrives. And they don't automatically accept all debit/credit cards either

29th August 2017, 18:21	#1
tantallon Gets stuck in ROVER 75 SALOON Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Peterborough Posts: 597 Thanks: 386 Thanked 316 Times in 144 Posts	Ebay I have now entered into an auction situation on Ebay .On both occasions I was the highest bidder .Neither listing had Buy it now prices ,Neither were classified Ads On both occasions the items were ended early and sold .What is the legality of this?.When a bid is placed you enter into a contract .Why are sellers not held to task.Your opinions please Ladies and Gentlemen

29th August 2017, 18:39	#2
madeupname Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Connie Mk2 1.8 (Mo) Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Sheffield Posts: 1,531 Thanks: 875 Thanked 335 Times in 289 Posts	Hi Howard. I have, in the past, sold items on ebay. I like the idea of an auction so I never put a buy it now price on it. But the number of people who contact me making offers if I sell to then is legion. If I'd taken them up on their offer I would have had to end the auction early. I'm sure that people can sell anything they want to privately and delist items. I have also bought stuff off ebay and had refunds because they had sold out or were mistaken about how many they had to offer. Swings and roundabouts I'm afraid, but there are millions of people around the world using ebay, You can probably find alternatives. But yes, if you buy something you should get it. __________________ Mo was born Tuesday, 22nd June 2004 @ 08:32:41 This vehicle was the 99,307th 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381 This vehicle was the 5,377th 75 1.8 Connoisseur to be made out of 6,033 This vehicle was the 783rd 75 in Firefrost Red (code: CEV) to be made out of 2,089 Firefrost Red 75s

29th August 2017, 18:40	#3
djb222 Regular poster MG ZT+ 190, Range Rover Sport 2010, 1968 Lotus Elan S4 SE Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Birmingham Posts: 91 Thanks: 12 Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts	You are correct once a bid has been received on an item, you are not allowed to end the auction because someone has made an offer. I suspect that an offer was made and it is probably recorded in their messages. eBay look upon this very badly, they have software that looks for phone numbers etc in messages to try and stop this. If you complain to eBay they will look into it. I have been approached several times with offers after bids have been made, I always refuse. eBay is heavily biased towards the buyer quite often unfairly, so complain. I recently sold a pair of new Boss jeans with labels, the buyer then complained they were fake. I refused to accept the return as they were genuine. I complained to ebay about a false claim, they said I had a valid case but still found in favour of the buyer, how bad is that. Another phone call and they agreed I was correct as I pointed out that in messages from the buyer he agreed they were genuine but didn't fit. As it happens I still have to give a refund ( I'll get the jeans back plus a refund from eBay of the refund I had to give the buyer) CRAZZZZZY. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] This vehicle was the 17,986th ZT to run off the production line, out of 18,894 This vehicle was the 3,967th ZT 190 + to be made out of 4,023 This vehicle was the 195th ZT in Mica Blue (Ignition) (code: JGY) to be made out of 323 Mica Blue (Ignition) ZTs

29th August 2017, 19:16	#5
djb222 Regular poster MG ZT+ 190, Range Rover Sport 2010, 1968 Lotus Elan S4 SE Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Birmingham Posts: 91 Thanks: 12 Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts	Because if someone has already made a bid, it's unfair, dishonest and against eBay rules... __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] This vehicle was the 17,986th ZT to run off the production line, out of 18,894 This vehicle was the 3,967th ZT 190 + to be made out of 4,023 This vehicle was the 195th ZT in Mica Blue (Ignition) (code: JGY) to be made out of 323 Mica Blue (Ignition) ZTs

29th August 2017, 20:13	#7
victorgte I really should get out more....... MGTF, MGZT, Range Rover Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Cheltenham Posts: 2,803 Thanks: 395 Thanked 633 Times in 446 Posts	I find it difficult to understand why items reach a certain figure, end and are then resisted a few days later. I got a bid cancelled by a seller who then apparently sold it for £10 more than I bid but then relisted again! What was wrong with my bid? Not enough? Auction is all about a bid winning. End of auction, not hang around until the price is high enough. __________________ MG TF 135, MG ZT, Range Rover P38

29th August 2017, 19:00	#4
STUBIE This is my second home Back in a Rover Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Peterborough Posts: 4,926 Thanks: 131 Thanked 357 Times in 261 Posts	You can end an auction and sell to the highest bidder. The problem with ebay is that buyers can bid and win an auction then not pay for it so why would you not sell to someone who is there offering to purchase. Stubs

29th August 2017, 20:11	#6
STUBIE This is my second home Back in a Rover Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Peterborough Posts: 4,926 Thanks: 131 Thanked 357 Times in 261 Posts	So is not paying for an item you have won but ebay does not force the buyer. In fact these days they dont even get negative feedback. Stubs

29th August 2017, 20:34	#9
vacuman Gets stuck in MG ZT-T Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: St Albans Posts: 855 Thanks: 69 Thanked 236 Times in 172 Posts	Never understood why ebay doesn't run auctions like real auctions. The auction shouldn't end until there's been no fresh bids for, say 2 mins after the set end-time. That would stop all the last 5 second sniping and gives the seller the chance to get the best possible price. __________________ • This vehicle was the 8,186th ZT-T to run off the production line, out of 8,249 • This vehicle was the 1,723rd ZT-T 190 + to be made out of 1,756 • This vehicle was the 149th ZT-T in Mica Blue (Ignition) (code: JGY) to be made out of 160 Mica Blue (Ignition) ZT-Ts