Speeding Fine on Dutch trip - Page 9

COLVERT · 6th October 2019, 13:41

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Originally Posted by SCP440

I was speaking to a friend about this today and he was telling me he had 6 tickets from his visit to France earlier in the year. The first one he put down to ''bad luck'' but when the others started arriving over the following weeks he started spitting feathers.

He reckons we are being picked on because of the ''B'' word as he reckons at no point did he drive any faster than the traffic flow.

Not that I plan on trying it but it would be interesting to actually see what happens if a fine is not paid.

I live here. The above is correct. The French only pay half the fines the Brits do.---( also Brexit is hinted as being the reason. )

My wife in a British registered car was fined 85 Euros for doing 57 kph in a 50 kph limit. They automatically deduct 5 kph so her fine was for doing 2 kph over the limit.--

If you tripped over you would move faster than that on your way down.--

COLVERT · 6th October 2019, 13:49

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Originally Posted by Arctic

Surely if no signs pointing out the speed limit, & paper work with the wrong date on they are not legal and would not have to be paid? it is worth finding out, ask one of our members from there to ask or find out what the law says from there.

The speed limits are well published over here and, as everywhere, ignorance of the law is no excuse.--

Just curious but don't most of you travellers have Sat-Navs that tell you where the cameras are ???

Mobile units you just have to spot if you can.
If you are caught using a Radar beam detector you are removed from your car and your car can be taken away and crushed.---

Colvert

first-things-first · 6th October 2019, 14:54

You guys got off lightly. I got stung very legally for my trips this year

:

Trip to Normandy in June. £50 in tolls.

Trip to Turin in June, driving through France. £163 in tolls. Plus a lovely £45 ish for the Frejus tunnel (one way

) between Italy and France.

Trip to Bologna and Florence in July, driving through France. £330 in tolls. Plus a lovely £50 ish for the Frejus tunnel (return - got a discount - whoopy do

) between Italy and France.

So all in (excluding the myriad other costs) the tolls alone cost me £638.

clf · 6th October 2019, 16:32

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Originally Posted by first-things-first

You guys got off lightly. I got stung very legally for my trips this year

:

Trip to Normandy in June. £50 in tolls.

Trip to Turin in June, driving through France. £163 in tolls. Plus a lovely £45 ish for the Frejus tunnel (one way

) between Italy and France.

Trip to Bologna and Florence in July, driving through France. £330 in tolls. Plus a lovely £50 ish for the Frejus tunnel (return - got a discount - whoopy do

) between Italy and France.

So all in (excluding the myriad other costs) the tolls alone cost me £638.

Are there no alternative routes to use without tolls though? I always thought that tolls were to be used to pay for and maintain roads.

I think we should have them here, with a discounted rate for residents of the uk.

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steve-45 · 6th October 2019, 16:42

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Originally Posted by clf

Are there no alternative routes to use without tolls though? I always thought that tolls were to be used to pay for and maintain roads.

I think we should have them here, with a discounted rate for residents of the uk.

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All that would happen is that UK residents would be forced to pay and they would not bother collecting any non - UK registered vehicle tolls.

Just like the current situation at the Dartford Crossing.

COLVERT · 6th October 2019, 16:49

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Originally Posted by clf

Are there no alternative routes to use without tolls though? I always thought that tolls were to be used to pay for and maintain roads.

I think we should have them here, with a discounted rate for residents of the uk.

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There are motorways without tolls.

I travel 95% of my 300 mile drive from Cherbourg to my house in the Loire Valley without paying any tolls. Some parts of the motorways having a speed of 130 Kph.

clf · 6th October 2019, 17:00

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Originally Posted by steve-45

All that would happen is that UK residents would be forced to pay and they would not bother collecting any non - UK registered vehicle tolls.

Just like the current situation at the Dartford Crossing.

This is where manned and unmanned toll booths should be used as in ROI. Likewise, how do the EU countries obtain the addresses of UK registered vehicles. Quid Pro Quo systems (I know ROI and NI have a reciprocal agreement when it comes to speeding and parking fines. The beauty though is the points only apply to one licence

).

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Originally Posted by COLVERT

There are motorways without tolls.

I travel 95% of my 300 mile drive from Cherbourg to my house in the Loire Valley without paying any tolls. Some parts of the motorways having a speed of 135 Kph.

That is what I thought. Speed would not be my concern though, I would happily pay a toll for a decent and convenient road. It would make things a lot fairer as would a road fund in fuel duty - but that is a another argument already played out on here before. I dont think tolls in NI though would work, as the roads are simply not really long enough to justify them.

first-things-first · 6th October 2019, 18:37

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Originally Posted by clf

Are there no alternative routes to use without tolls though? I always thought that tolls were to be used to pay for and maintain roads.

I think we should have them here, with a discounted rate for residents of the uk.

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Sat nav set to avoid tolls, showed an extra 5 hours. On top of an 8 hour journey it would be way too much. Depends how much time you have for your journey.

COLVERT · 6th October 2019, 20:55

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Originally Posted by first-things-first

Sat nav set to avoid tolls, showed an extra 5 hours. On top of an 8 hour journey it would be way too much. Depends how much time you have for your journey.

Yes, that can happen.---Lots of folk though on such long trips book into a B &B for the night.--Stops you driving and getting overtired and makes the whole trip more rewarding.

Gives you time for a cup of tea or coffee break and a look at different surroundings and people.---

bl52krz · 6th October 2019, 22:00

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Originally Posted by COLVERT

There are motorways without tolls.

I travel 95% of my 300 mile drive from Cherbourg to my house in the Loire Valley without paying any tolls. Some parts of the motorways having a speed of 135 Kph.

135 Klm’s an hour? I thought the max was 130km’s an hour.

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first-things-first Posted a thing or two MG ZT Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Hornchurch Posts: 1,255 Thanks: 176 Thanked 352 Times in 272 Posts	You guys got off lightly. I got stung very legally for my trips this year : Trip to Normandy in June. £50 in tolls. Trip to Turin in June, driving through France. £163 in tolls. Plus a lovely £45 ish for the Frejus tunnel (one way ) between Italy and France. Trip to Bologna and Florence in July, driving through France. £330 in tolls. Plus a lovely £50 ish for the Frejus tunnel (return - got a discount - whoopy do ) between Italy and France. So all in (excluding the myriad other costs) the tolls alone cost me £638.