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Old 10th November 2019, 12:49   #71
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100% what Brian said. No soul, is there?

I find it impossible to get excited by a small capacity forced induction engine, never mind a hybrid, or full electric. It is a milk float, or even a hairdryer, or kitchen mixer!

There are two strong interest groups at play: the green lobby (communism in disguise) and the automotive industry (who would love legislation to force us to buy their new products).

Am I alone in thinking that cars were mechanically sorted by the mid to late 1990s, and anything later is a struggle to justify? Notice how car advertisements are all about remote unlock, WiFi, Bluetooth etc. Nothing about the mechanics, as that is a long-solved problem.

I will have an internal combustion engine for as long as I can!

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Old 10th November 2019, 13:51   #72
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I understand this is a car forum and many are not in any way connected to the truck industry but its a simple fact that if a modern truck is running to Euro 6 compliance and the majority of them are then they are amongst the cleanest on the road. Why do you think the Government are planning to ban all vehicles from city centres unless they are Euro 6 compliant? The ad blue system is obviously not yet perfect as it aims to significantly reduce pollutants but its up to the acceptable standard of whatever the powers that be deem to be achievable with the technology that we have available to us. Another thing is on my truck as long as the engine is running the ad blue system is constantly working no matter what the engine revs are or if the truck is in stop/start traffic or out on the motorway so I defy any of you to tell me you have been behind a Euro 6 compliant truck and seen black smoke belching out of the exhaust.
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Old 10th November 2019, 15:32   #73
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Well I’ve just fitted a fbh to the ZT, Pity it’s not all full of carbon as I’d quite like one that smokes just to upset the clean air brigade.
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All this talk about pollution, brings back memories of many years ago when I used to holiday with a few people from different parts of the UK. We used to look for ‘Pollution’ all the while on the beach. No not waste products but topless women. Naughty boys!! What I would like to do is cut a nice hole in my inlet pipe from the air cooler to the egr so I could belch out thick black smoke all over these green’s. They would then have something to moan about. Swinson and the Green woman come to mind. It’s a joke. Well it could be if it was not so serious. .’
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Old 10th November 2019, 18:08   #75
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I must admit to feeling a little guilty maybe even self conscious when I go out in my ZT which is a V6 and the twin pipes are visible at the back potentially polluting the atmosphere. Sometimes I half expect to be pelted with something nasty by some fanatical green activist while out driving about! I justify myself by thinking well I aint been banned from the road yet by the Government so I have every right to be here but don't get me wrong I can see their point but I just wonder how long it will be before we are faced with that kind of scenario? Anyone else feel that way?
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Old 10th November 2019, 18:25   #76
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Anyone else feel that way?
Nope, not at all, to buy a new (or second hand EV) will cost more
in terms of pollution to make it and get it to me than my 18 year old V6 or
15 year old diesel.

To clarify both cars were built at
Longbridge, about 50 miles from me, EV's are shipped half way around the world
on a ship belching all sorts of defication material into the air.
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Old 10th November 2019, 18:58   #77
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Sometimes I half expect to be pelted with something nasty by some fanatical green activist while out driving about!
What are they going to throw? Can't waste manure as that becomes eco friendly methane, rotten fruit and veg is composted and returned to the land, stones can be better used to build the base of an environmentally friendly yurt. I think you're safe.
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Old 10th November 2019, 19:16   #78
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I think I am safe anyway hopefully, my car literally only does a couple of miles a day bless it with an occasional blast at the weekend and maybe 2 or 3 times a year into mid wales and back.
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Nope, not at all, to buy a new (or second hand EV) will cost more
in terms of pollution to make it and get it to me than my 18 year old V6 or
15 year old diesel.

To clarify both cars were built at
Longbridge, about 50 miles from me, EV's are shipped half way around the world
on a ship belching all sorts of defication material into the air
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Sunderland is up North I know, but still...……….
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Old 10th November 2019, 20:52   #80
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Sunderland is up North I know, but still...……….I wouldn't have any of the ghastly offerings cobbled together at the Datsun plant in Washington given, never mind actually parting with money for one

There you go, I've completed the statement you know you wanted to make

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