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Old 26th November 2021, 21:15   #31
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The reality is that however much we like these cars as they get older it’s all about keeping them going to the best of our ability. The front drop links on my car lasted 14 years, the replacement 14 months.... There will be very few genuine parts out there other than the spurious limited use parts that will be old stock. However, I find that I don’t buy from local factors as that’s where the quality is poor in my opinion but I try and use Xpart, DMGRS and Rimmer brothers. Yes the XPart rear arms were found to be dubious quality but at the time I needed them they were the only supplier, Rimmer brothers postage can be high but so what if they have the stock? Not had an issue with DMGRS but as long as the parts are available with somebody and you get good service then happy days
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Old 26th November 2021, 21:52   #32
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My Ctek smart charger is sold by a Swedish company but it's made in China. You could not fault the manufacturing quality.

Also the KV6 thermostat housing modified by China to have three supporting legs is far superior to the original "genuine" MGR item.

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Ctek state on their website that their products are “are independently validated and verified” - do you think Xpart can state the same?

And does this marvel of Chinese engineering contain the original specification of thermostat? If not then I’m not at all interested and don’t consider it superior to the original OEM MGR item.

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Old 27th November 2021, 00:52   #33
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Ctek state on their website that their products are “are independently validated and verified” - do you think Xpart can state the same?

And does this marvel of Chinese engineering contain the original specification of thermostat? If not then I’m not at all interested and don’t consider it superior to the original OEM MGR item.

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Forgive me, but I am at a loss as to what is your argument, or indeed why you are arguing at all. If you do not wish to purchase parts from X-part, don't do so, I dont believe Simon will care. If you are not interested in the lower temperature thermostat, winters could feel colder than otherwise for you but no one else will care. Just as no one cares that I have a preferred choice of parts suppliers based on my criteria.

If you prefer to buy DMGRS versions of X-Part supplied or directly supplied Chinese parts, do so. Again, no one is suggesting that you should do something different.

If you are unhappy about the parts supply situation for MGR cars, sell the car or if the situation causes you too much stress, do with it whatever you like if you feel this may help with de-stressing. Again, I doubt many others will really care although we will pretend out of kindness and camaraderie.

I for one am grateful to Simon for documenting his experience and letting the forum members know of a direct route to purchasing X-Part items. Just as I am grateful to tikey and others for sharing their experiences. It's as simple as that.

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............Some sources say that the balti was invented in Birmingham by the Pakistani community. I've heard similar said of chicken tikka masala. So when is an Indian dish "genuine" and is it even correct to call it Indian? I understand that our restaurants are actually Bangladeshi. Oh dear, I'm treading on thin ice here!

As Pete Towshend wrote: "The simple things you see are all complicated".



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Yes Simon, the Pakistani's have a lot to answer for . There is no genuine Indian food of the Balti variety in India. Balti means bucket and in India people do not cook in buckets. It is a Midlands invention. Also, you are correct that most Indian restaurants in the UK are in fact run by people of Bangladeshi origin which is merely a statement of fact.

There are places one can buy geuine/OEM Indian food. There is even a restaurant in Southall that I visit when down in Hounslow which serves genuine/OEM Punjabi food. Being a Punjabi Sikh, I am rather impartial to Sarson Saag (not Aloo Saag) eaten with a Corn Flour roti.

I guess there is probably now going to be an argument about the originality of this combination, but I can say with confidence that the combination really is genuine to the Punjab region.

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Old 27th November 2021, 07:42   #34
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And does this marvel of Chinese engineering contain the original specification of thermostat?
The example I bought (from X-Part agent BS Motors/E Car Parts) some years ago does, judging by my car's running temperature.

Mike, is everything ok? You seem to be angry about something.
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There is even a restaurant in Southall that I visit when down in Hounslow which serves genuine/OEM Punjabi food.
Would that be the Brilliant Restaurant (noun not adjective) in Western Road Maninder? If so, I've been there and it lives up to its name.

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Old 27th November 2021, 15:48   #35
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The example I bought (from X-Part agent BS Motors/E Car Parts) some years ago does, judging by my car's running temperature.

Mike, is everything ok? You seem to be angry about something.

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Are you ok yourself Simon, very unlike you to give a non-specific answer to something you always deem as important, actual running temperature? And perhaps, yes, I get a little fed-up reading songs of praise about Xpart.

My recycled original thermostat is back on the road and performing as it should. But it does irritate me that I cannot buy, nor have the choice to buy, an original 88 deg thermostat as I have no wish to run a summer thermostat when the temperatures sink to around minus 30c.

Xpart have the specs and control a lot of production, but not even DMGRS can get any. Every seller on Ebay promotes these as Genuine/MGR but how can a product that is not made to original spec be considered genuine? At what point do we say “We’re not going to take it”?

As Sworks pointed out above, his original drop links lasted 14 years - back when the brand meant quality but now Xpart release stocks of presumably unchecked sub-standard parts and wait until someone like MarinaBrian discovers the truth, or others like poster cif find a product holed within a year.

You mentioned Ctek as a Swedish company with production in China, and I merely pointed out that Ctek keep a very tight rein on quality control, which is a necessity with outsourced production otherwise the reputation takes a quick dive.

You and I, have first hand experience actually fitting these parts and know better than some others how well these parts actually perform or fit. I recently told a local member about a cheap exhaust system from Poland and asked for feedback - “the garage didn’t say anything” was his reply. Useless feedback in my mind, I value the opinion of someone who actually does the job and can give an accurate description.

Finally, you mention “the simple things in life …” of course from Substitute, a song about something fake, non-original, very apt. I shall now bow out of this thread and if you don’t agree that’s fine, however I have lots of welding to do on my granddaughter’s Chevy S10 so have no time to bring “Eyesight to the Blind”.

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Old 1st December 2021, 11:31   #36
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I've just bought and received some genuine X-part clips for the boot carpet. Excellent service. Sadly no fudge, but the clips seem like good quality i.e. not cheap brittle plastic.

As I fitted them myself, I assume this qualifies me for a forum audience at whom I can direct my positive experience!

Member Vitesse, do let me know if you would like me to email a PDF of my hands-on experience of fitting the said parts.

Simon - Brilliant is one of two. The other is Roxy (used to have a proper Indian name at one time - Sagoo and Thakhar). I notice that Roxy has had quite a few poor reviews in the past couple of years on Google. I will have to try it again soon.
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Goodness Simon, I think you have set off World War III and all on your own too. Well done. but who knows where it will end
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Old 2nd April 2022, 22:25   #38
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Balti means bucket and in India people do not cook in buckets.

When I was a salesman back in the 90s, I made a disproportionate number of rather unnecessary sales calls to Birmingham, and always ate in various Balti houses in Sparkbrook – got quite pally with one of the waiters in The King’s Paradise who explained this to me in detail. I seem to remember him saying that, while “balti” indeed means bucket, it didn’t translate literally, and referred in practice to a wok. I have no idea if this is true or not, and didn’t care much – I was too busy stuffing my face



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And in saying that, stephen from carrickfergus, at my local Indian takeaway also makes a rather fine and apparently authentic balti I have been told (am not a curry fan lol).

I am! I AM!! Which one is that, Alan?
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We have 2 fine curry house's we visit. Both are of Pakistan origin. Th owners are both called Steve and are very nice chaps indeed.. Are these OEM, Original, or a something else.? My local colleagues (i dont have friends) mechanics all answer to "Dave" my son also does and that's not his name.

So Manninder if Vitesse prefers OEM so be it.

But why do you try intermate Packistan food to be not as OEM as Indian food?
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......... I seem to remember him saying that, while “balti” indeed means bucket, it didn’t translate literally, and referred in practice to a wok. I have no idea if this is true or not, and didn’t care much – I was too busy stuffing my face

We Indians are simple people. A Balti is a bucket, nothing else.

The wok like dish is a Karahi, small versions of which Indian restaurants in the UK may use to cook/serve a Balti dish.

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But why do you try intermate Packistan food to be not as OEM as Indian food?

Simply because we Indians blame the Pakistanis for everything. The Pakistanis do the same in reverse. It's tradition..

I think an Indian dish served by a restaurant run by a Pakistani would be more OEM-Q than OEM Indian. No one knows its origin or constituents but it looks fine and some would swear that it tastes authentic (or OEM if you prefer).
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