Sunroof Drains Tube Leak Solved - Page 16

munroman · 17th October 2013, 20:15

How about these fellas, available individually?

Select Straight then 16mm

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/16102...ff14=83&ff19=0

horsemanuk · 16th November 2013, 13:55

Are you kidding me? I've just done this job and what a joke. From the pictures I strangely assumed the hose through the bulkhead would be vertical, or at least slightly inclined, but it's horizontal?! I'm no engineer but doesn't gravity pull things DOWNWARDS and if you point water at a horizontal surface then it'll 'pick' it's route rather than potentially going where you wanted it.

I can't believe the torx screws holding the glovebox in, either. There's a fuse board behind it that, presumably, would need access during the lifetime of the car. You have to pull up the material that is GLUED to the bottom of the glovebox to get to the torx screws, and there isn't a hope in hell that the material go down flat again after being yanked around.

I seriously wonder about the engineers they employed to design the Rover 75...

AndyAitch · 16th November 2013, 14:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by horsemanuk

Are you kidding me? I've just done this job and what a joke. From the pictures I strangely assumed the hose through the bulkhead would be vertical, or at least slightly inclined, but it's horizontal?! I'm no engineer but doesn't gravity pull things DOWNWARDS and if you point water at a horizontal surface then it'll 'pick' it's route rather than potentially going where you wanted it.

Yes, but water finds its own level so once it's got past the horizontal bit, it flows downhill so there's no real danger of the water pooling. Unless the pipe is bunged up to ******y like mine were... I used curtain wire to clean mine out and all's good.

Jules · 16th November 2013, 20:03

The glove box felt is liftable without damaging it, (sharp tug method!)

The whole concept of the 75 was that there would be no screw heads visible.

Just speaking to the Rover 800 lads at the NEC Classic Car show today and they report the sunroof drains are the same design.
So it seems MGR learnt no lessons at all

horsemanuk · 16th November 2013, 21:05

Jules, I would love to agree with you except that the first screws I took out where the two at the bottom of the fascia under the steering wheel. Those two are clearly visible to all but the visually impaired.

OVERSTEER · 16th December 2013, 17:08

Massive water ingress headaches for me too gents.

I presently have to deal with two ZTs with sieve/colander issues.

I've already stopped at least two leaks and now have at least two more. Including the one that this entire thread is about, on (obviously) the sunroof car.

horsemanuk · 19th December 2013, 12:14

After I did my two front plenums all seems to be well again. The water is drying up slowly of its own accord from the rear footwells and there are no associated 'bad smells' from sitting water. No further leakage has been observed.

Jules · 19th December 2013, 13:33

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Originally Posted by horsemanuk

After I did my two front plenums all seems to be well again. The water is drying up slowly of its own accord from the rear footwells and there are no associated 'bad smells' from sitting water. No further leakage has been observed.

Carpet "may" appear to dry up from above.
But the mould and rot will set in soon enough unless the foam soundproofing is completely dried out underneath. 2 inches thick and holds gallons !!!

If you don't want to remove carpet completely, then lift the affected side of the carpet (remove trims etc)
Place several dry towels under the wet foam and let them soak up the moisture. (car can still be used as long as pedals are not fouled with anything)
Repeat this process each day for 5 days.

Carpet will then be approaching 90% dry.
There's so many 75's about now stinking of mould

Chuckles · 30th December 2013, 09:42

I may have missed it and apologise in advance if I had.

I do not have a sun roof but perhaps the plugs that cover the roof bars are equally suspect? Is there still this drain pipe to worry about?

I did have loads of water in the rear drivers under seat well but that was due to a failed heater matrix. The water had the sticky smelly antifreeze feel about it. Having sorted that I was not worried about it but still there was an occasion to check it!

Now I have water/very wet carpet under the drivers seat but this water feels "cleaner"

Arctic · 30th December 2013, 10:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckles

I may have missed it and apologise in advance if I had.

I do not have a sun roof but perhaps the plugs that cover the roof bars are equally suspect? Is there still this drain pipe to worry about?

I did have loads of water in the rear drivers under seat well but that was due to a failed heater matrix. The water had the sticky smelly antifreeze feel about it. Having sorted that I was not worried about it but still there was an occasion to check it!

Now I have water/very wet carpet under the drivers seat but this water feels "cleaner"

Hi Chuck.
Check your plenums also the rear light gasket
http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=125864

16th November 2013, 20:03	#154
Jules This is my second home ZT 260 SE Twilight and 10 other 75 ZT's :O Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Conwy NORTH WALES Posts: 11,094 Thanks: 512 Thanked 1,116 Times in 763 Posts	The glove box felt is liftable without damaging it, (sharp tug method!) The whole concept of the 75 was that there would be no screw heads visible. Just speaking to the Rover 800 lads at the NEC Classic Car show today and they report the sunroof drains are the same design. So it seems MGR learnt no lessons at all __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Newbies do now!! 1. Plenum drains..all 3 or 4 year dependent 2. Cooling fan..All speeds functioning 3. Bonnet cable divider block

30th December 2013, 09:42	#159
Chuckles Gets stuck in NOW a Club Tourer was 1999 - 75 2.0Ltr Connoisseur SE petrol Saloon Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Iwerne Minster, Dorset Posts: 552 Thanks: 63 Thanked 54 Times in 47 Posts	I may have missed it and apologise in advance if I had. I do not have a sun roof but perhaps the plugs that cover the roof bars are equally suspect? Is there still this drain pipe to worry about? I did have loads of water in the rear drivers under seat well but that was due to a failed heater matrix. The water had the sticky smelly antifreeze feel about it. Having sorted that I was not worried about it but still there was an occasion to check it! Now I have water/very wet carpet under the drivers seat but this water feels "cleaner" __________________ Chuck Nth. Dorset. UK Membership #1896 Don't take life so seriously.... it is not permanent!

17th October 2013, 20:15	#151
munroman Loves to post Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Glasgow Posts: 409 Thanks: 365 Thanked 83 Times in 62 Posts	How about these fellas, available individually? Select Straight then 16mm http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/16102...ff14=83&ff19=0

16th November 2013, 13:55	#152
horsemanuk Avid contributor Rover 75 Club CDT SE Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Burntwood Posts: 211 Thanks: 10 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Are you kidding me? I've just done this job and what a joke. From the pictures I strangely assumed the hose through the bulkhead would be vertical, or at least slightly inclined, but it's horizontal?! I'm no engineer but doesn't gravity pull things DOWNWARDS and if you point water at a horizontal surface then it'll 'pick' it's route rather than potentially going where you wanted it. I can't believe the torx screws holding the glovebox in, either. There's a fuse board behind it that, presumably, would need access during the lifetime of the car. You have to pull up the material that is GLUED to the bottom of the glovebox to get to the torx screws, and there isn't a hope in hell that the material go down flat again after being yanked around. I seriously wonder about the engineers they employed to design the Rover 75...

16th November 2013, 21:05	#155
horsemanuk Avid contributor Rover 75 Club CDT SE Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Burntwood Posts: 211 Thanks: 10 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Jules, I would love to agree with you except that the first screws I took out where the two at the bottom of the fascia under the steering wheel. Those two are clearly visible to all but the visually impaired.

16th December 2013, 17:08	#156
OVERSTEER Newbie MG ZT Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: London Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Massive water ingress headaches for me too gents. I presently have to deal with two ZTs with sieve/colander issues. I've already stopped at least two leaks and now have at least two more. Including the one that this entire thread is about, on (obviously) the sunroof car.

19th December 2013, 12:14	#157
horsemanuk Avid contributor Rover 75 Club CDT SE Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Burntwood Posts: 211 Thanks: 10 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	After I did my two front plenums all seems to be well again. The water is drying up slowly of its own accord from the rear footwells and there are no associated 'bad smells' from sitting water. No further leakage has been observed.