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Old 12th August 2022, 09:10   #11
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So, we should shoot the messenger rather than the culprit? Cheer up, the Sun's out!
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Old 12th August 2022, 10:32   #12
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I am not sure where to post this, so forgive me for just posting here!.
But watching the evening news today, paints a very grim picture of today's Britain.

The NHS is in dire trouble,
the government in disarray, and out of touch,
the PM candidates, can't find their way out of a paper bag,
Utility bills set to go through the roof,
Inflation in double figures,
the economy in recession,
people having to go to food banks,
the 'heatwave'
energy companies announcing profits in the billions,
nurses leaving the NHS in their 000s,
Dentists soon to vanish as an NHS service,

If I have left anything out, feel free to add to this list.

But more importantly, what are your views?
Thanks for the replies and comments, I can see that most views are focused on the 'ah well what can any one do' variety, which does not surprise me.
My own views are different, and may be even considered argumentative.
I do believe that Britain is on a spiral to decline, and insignificance the political leadership is very poor, and self serving, the political architecture developed over several centuries is such that ordinary people find it impossible to be heard, as such the system is self sustaining and and unchanging. This will lead to decline, and more decline in the standards of living of the average person whilst the 'elite' will continue to prosper, but more importantly this small group, will call all the shots, until people wake up.!
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Old 12th August 2022, 11:12   #13
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Think the whole world is in a bit of a strange place at the moment!!
Over here in Australia we have a country with lot of natural recourses,plenty of gas,oil minerals , food , space but there are massive staff shortages, cost of living going up on everything, cant get a house built, no trades.
We now have a new govt that is making everyone pay for their social conscience and this brave new environmental world being imposed on us all even though no one can actually provide any proof or facts that its all going to work.
Lemming's running over the cliffs edge !!

Perhaps Australia needs to rethink its immigration policies. Many parts of the world are full of tradesmen without jobs. I believe the Australian system would call them Aliens!
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Old 12th August 2022, 11:46   #14
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Perhaps Australia needs to rethink its immigration policies. Many parts of the world are full of tradesmen without jobs. I believe the Australian system would call them Aliens!
I agree wholeheartedly, Australia is essentially is a country held back by primitive immigration policies, time to wake up before it is too late.
By the way the Greek community of Australia is easily the most successful there, they are also the most successful in the USA. And to think that Greeks were not considered a 'white' race when they started to emigrate to the USA?, what does that tell us all.

In any case thanks to all for discussing this very important time in our country, at a time when the chickens are coming home to roost.
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Old 12th August 2022, 13:41   #15
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Thanks for the replies and comments, I can see that most views are focused on the 'ah well what can any one do' variety, which does not surprise me.
My own views are different, and may be even considered argumentative.
I do believe that Britain is on a spiral to decline, and insignificance the political leadership is very poor, and self serving, the political architecture developed over several centuries is such that ordinary people find it impossible to be heard, as such the system is self sustaining and and unchanging. This will lead to decline, and more decline in the standards of living of the average person whilst the 'elite' will continue to prosper, but more importantly this small group, will call all the shots, until people wake up.!

you say "....I can see that most views are focused on the 'ah well what can any one do' variety, which does not surprise me. My own views are different, ....." but you dont tell us your suggestion for a way forward. What are your ideas?

In part, we the public are responsible for the situation we find ourselves in.

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Old 12th August 2022, 17:23   #16
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Can’t accept that entirely! Having a ‘vote’ can be empowering but when faced with choices of the crooked leading the bland, followed by the yappers and hangers on, we are too often left with the least worst alternatives.

The public are not responsible, they too are casualties. How many of us toilers actually know anything at all about any one of them? Or even what they do all day? Then, when you consider the apparent power of a professionally deaf Civil Service......

As for the way forward, how about working entirely from their constituency offices and being accountable for their hours? If the system now allows WFH without the need for regular mass meetings where nothing but froth is discussed...well, you get the point!
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Old 12th August 2022, 20:07   #17
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Well spoken from a frequent visitor here.
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Old 13th August 2022, 04:29   #18
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Everything depends on how you see it.
Awake or Asleep.
It's all subjective.
I'm at the wrong end of life's scale to be too worried about it.
My advice would be not to watch any of the mainstream media, BBC, Sky etc. Unless of course you are able to see it for what it is, picking out all the rubbish and not being dragged in.
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Old 13th August 2022, 07:50   #19
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Be thankful that we are all still here to whinge about the state of the country.

It will never be perfect, but it's a lot better than some places.

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Old 13th August 2022, 08:13   #20
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the economy in recession,

Not strictly true. Recession is when the economy shrinks over two consecutive quarters. In fact it was just the last quarter that shrunk by 0.1%. In fact it would not have been negative but for the extra Jubilee Bank Holidays in June.
Do not believe all the doom and gloom of the BBC
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