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Putting aside the fact that the Frenchies are bad, would you say that putting the head of state to head of state level letter on Twitter was a sincere and wise action or merely intended to appease supporters at home by making suggestions that the other side could not possibly accept? The reason I am having difficulty, apart from quite possibly being one of the uninitiated, is that I was taught never to put something in the public domain until discussion and agreement with the other side of a proposed negotiation is in place unless it is merely to score points for non-constructive motives. |
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You are trying to blame JF.
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So Boris is obeying all the treaties he signed? See here to possibly refresh your memory.
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Para2. Please tell me which posts of mine give the impression that I think all 'Frenchies' (as you put it), using an unfortunate abbreviation that has cost Yorkshire cricket so much, are bad. I have a 20 strong collection of hats and I will eat them all if you can do that. Para3. If you took umbrage at 'uninitiated' you might have been unaware that it is not insulting, at least not in this context. Further, my motives are not disguised in any way. HTH.
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[QUOTE=Torqueofthedevil;2909995]Show me the statistics that prove your point. I won't hold my breath. And anyway, you're missing the point - I don't dispute that some of the immigrants commit crimes, some of which are very serious) Quote
At least you dont dispute that immigrants commit crimes.. For statistics you only have to read 1,what crimes are being commited,2How they are being committed and 3 by whom they are being committed , 1 Increased Rape and Gang Rape, Child abduction and trafficking, Increase of Drug supply. 2 Violent crimes with the weapon of choice a machete or knife, This was not so prevalent years ago. 3 An increased number of unemployed ethnic minority people who dont want to work and prefer a life of crime because they know there is little or no punishment for what they do 3
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That neatly covers the need for our already existing and operating system of considering applications from asylum seekers and other worthy people irrespective of race, creed, or colour. Exactly as it should be.
They have to satisfy reasonable security checks to be successful applicants and it covers all legitimate requirements. That's why it is legal. Trying to force acceptance by brandishing infants and knowing our morals will not turn them away is horrific. What's more, it works.
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Point 2 - OK it's just Macron? Point 3 - not at all. No umbrage, just a bit of amusement. |
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It's clearly an emotive subject, balancing a sense of basic human compassion against a fear of people who are different.
I wonder though, if for arguments sake China launched an invasion against Australia and New Zealand and succeeded in taking control. Imagine then them handing power back to the indigenous population and removing the rights to freedom of speech, education, religious worship, voting and land ownerhip to white people. Some of the white people then decide to flee to the UK and Europe, after all, we are safe, have peace within our borders, stable governments, honour and respect human rights, have spoken out against the atrocities being committed in their homeland, who knows perhaps we even sent troops there or bombed them Some flee as families for a better life, others decide to flee here and send money back to their families in Australia or New Zealand as their families are not up for such an arduous journey. Would we treat them the same or differently as those fleeing from Iran, Yeman, Kurdistan and so on? A hypothetical question I know, but if they look the same and speak the same as us would we welcome them or turn them back. Would we say you have passed through other countries stay there or tell them if you can afford to pay a trafficker then you don't need to come here Or would we just blame the French and the EU? |
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